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Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
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RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
ok, I'll byte.. well, I'll nibble.

(May 17, 2014 at 1:50 pm)RDK Wrote: If animals are changing as radically as you all imply, then every animal that exist should still have multitudes of unfinished variations in progress, proving that this process is still ongoing. We would not see one vestigial appendage, but a total package of changes that make up all animals.

You should be able to pick out hundreds of these changes as there are multitudes of subsystems that are being altered. Where are of these mistakes?
A few things:
. Change happens slowly.
. Only those who survive keep the species going.
. If they survive, then they are relatively well suited to their environment.
. Luckily, the environment tends to change slowly, too, so evolution can work at its pace. (This was a poetic anthropomorphizing of the evolutionary process, no quote mining, please)

Vestigial organs are abundant, most notably in animals that are sea mammals and sea birds, given that this drastic change must have been the most recent... as drastic changes go.
So, you see the rear flippers of sea mammals as horizontal, instead of the better ( Wink ) design of vertical rear flipper we can see in ALL fish. They're horizontal, because that's how rear paws would have aligned.

Sea birds, let's call them penguins, still have "wings", but they can't be used for flying. Still have bird-like feet, not the best "design" for swimming.
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RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
Sorry about the quote edit screw-up. Genetic info is infinite, but only planned application of that info will lead to any usable change.
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RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
Care to do anything more than assert that claim?
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RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
If I have found problems with the understanding of "accidental" evolution, it's because it has within it huge holes that need to be filled. If coming to conclusions about these these discrepancies is difficult, try to fill those holes yourself and admit that they are there. You keep quoting from the evolution bible and you're unwilling to take on it's inconsistencies.
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Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
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RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
(May 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm)RDK Wrote: If I have found problems with the understanding of "accidental" evolution, it's because it has within it huge holes that need to be filled. If coming to conclusions about these these discrepancies is difficult, try to fill those holes yourself and admit that they are there. You keep quoting from the evolution bible and you're unwilling to take on it's inconsistencies.

Listen, dude: instead of continuing to squawk about how we won't change our minds, could you perhaps consider why we don't find what you're saying persuasive?

Has the possibility that you are spouting demonstrably inaccurate statements even crossed your mind? And if not, is it really us who won't allow our minds to change? Dodgy
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RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
Double standards and all, why can't they apply the same skepticism they use against science, towards their vaunted beliefs, huh? Angel
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Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
(May 17, 2014 at 2:23 pm)RDK Wrote: I expected that. Simple reason is a powerful ally. I notice that none of you pick out ANY faults with your own beliefs because you think that aren't any. This is just a crazy as trying to reason with Christians. They react exactly the same way. Welcome to evolution church. Please don't try laying on of hands please!

Yeah, tell us about it. You won't even glance at a single link provided to you. All you can do is scream "I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, IT MUST BE WRONG!" Over and over again.
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RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
RDK, please respond to this statement:
You don't understand evolution.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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