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Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
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 (May 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm)RDK Wrote: If I have found problems with the understanding of "accidental" evolution, it's because it has within it huge holes that need to be filled. If coming to conclusions about these these discrepancies is difficult, try to fill those holes yourself and admit that they are there. You keep quoting from the evolution bible and you're unwilling to take on it's inconsistencies. None of your objections have turned out to be such holes. Are you holding anything back?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
I would love to hear these 'huge holes' of which RDK speaks.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech 
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  (May 23, 2014 at 12:38 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: None of your objections have turned out to be such holes. Are you holding anything back? Are you expecting cogency from a guy who will unironically use the phrase "evolution bible," presumably under the delusion that we all worship Origin of Species? 
  RE: Evolution, religion, and ignorance.
May 23, 2014 at 1:59 pm
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2014 at 2:00 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
It's a very good point, and it relies on both academia and 'laymen' educating themselves on interaction.
The university I work/research at has a dedicated 'talking head' academic that they use to relay otherwise complicated scientific advancements to the general public and, specifically,politicians. Indeed, in an age where science tends to be well beyond the grasp of anyone who doesn't have an advanced degree in a subject (I don't hide the fact that when people start talking quantum mechanics here my eyes glaze over), having a dedicated interaction team seems to be the logical choice. Doubly so when talking to the people that really matter; the politicians and charities that hold the purse strings.  (May 23, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Are you expecting cogency from a guy who will unironically use the phrase "evolution bible," presumably under the delusion that we all worship Origin of Species? To be fair, I for one worship Origin in exactly the same way as I worship the bible, the kerrang, and the book of moron.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(May 23, 2014 at 3:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(May 23, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Are you expecting cogency from a guy who will unironically use the phrase "evolution bible," presumably under the delusion that we all worship Origin of Species? Yeah, but I don't think Mr. Derpy Troll was looking for an answer of "not at all," either. 
 (May 23, 2014 at 12:28 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(May 17, 2014 at 2:44 pm)RDK Wrote: Sorry about the quote edit screw-up. Genetic info is infinite, but only planned application of that info will lead to any usable change. RDK: No, you have no evidence for that. DBP: What is 'evolutionary pressure'? There are no pressures that 'help' a creature - that's not how evolution works.
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