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Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 6:01 am
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Here are a few examples to illustrate what I mean -
Some Christians insist that Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehohvah's Witnesses aren't real Christians. Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons and the Eastern Orthodox Church insist they they have the correct teachings.
There are thousands of different Christian denominations. If somebody wanted to convert to Christianity, which version of Christianity should they choose? After all, it would be awful to convert to Version A only to discover that Version Q is the correct one.
I'm an atheist so have no desire to convert to any religion. I'm just wondering about the dilemma that Christian converts face.
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 6:10 am
I think that the real answer is "the one I belong to." Because to begin with, in order to determine if a person is a Christian or not, you need to define what it means to be a Christian. It has to be more than just believing in Jesus Christ and accepting him as your savior, because the JWs do that. However, the JWs have a raft of beliefs that are different from mainstream Christianity and they use those to explain why they are the only true Christians. So it requires more than just recognizing Jesus as your savior. Or even as your LORD, since most Christian denominations recognize Jesus as god, and yet insist that the others are not real Christians.
They need to present a list of reasons why they are the only real one and everyone else falls short. And that requires interpretation of scripture and justification for that interpretation. And while it provides a small amount of amusement to watch competing denominations battle over which interpretation of a sloppily-written book is the correct and proper one, it also gets tedious. It's like watching people argue over the best way to change the oil on a tricycle.
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 6:35 am
(May 21, 2014 at 6:10 am)Tonus Wrote: I think that the real answer is "the one I belong to." Because to begin with, in order to determine if a person is a Christian or not, you need to define what it means to be a Christian.
I'm hoping that the Christian forum members join in the discussion. I'd like to know why they think their particular version is right and how many believe that other denominations have been misled by the devil.
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 7:20 am
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I'd reject all protestant denominations straight off the bat because they only have the single text source material.
That gets us down to Catholics, the various Orthodox groupings and the Coptics. There is then the doctrine of Trinitarianism to consider, which frankly is a pile of semantic BS and looking too deeply is likely to lead to Arianism.
Of course this all hinges on the assumption that the Jews weren't lying through their teeth in the first place...
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 7:58 am
(May 21, 2014 at 6:01 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Here are a few examples to illustrate what I mean -
Some Christians insist that Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehohvah's Witnesses aren't real Christians. Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons and the Eastern Orthodox Church insist they they have the correct teachings.
There are thousands of different Christian denominations. If somebody wanted to convert to Christianity, which version of Christianity should they choose? After all, it would be awful to convert to Version A only to discover that Version Q is the correct one.
I'm an atheist so have no desire to convert to any religion. I'm just wondering about the dilemma that Christian converts face.
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 8:36 am
The Apostle's Creed would be a good place to start.
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 8:46 am
(May 21, 2014 at 6:01 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Here are a few examples to illustrate what I mean -
Some Christians insist that Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehohvah's Witnesses aren't real Christians. Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons and the Eastern Orthodox Church insist they they have the correct teachings.
There are thousands of different Christian denominations. If somebody wanted to convert to Christianity, which version of Christianity should they choose? After all, it would be awful to convert to Version A only to discover that Version Q is the correct one.
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"Why shouldn't I?" he asked.
"Well, there's so much to live for!"
"Like what?"
"Are you religious?"
He said: "Yes."
I said: "Me too. Are you Christian or Buddhist?"
"Christian."
"Me too. Are you Catholic or Protestant?"
"Protestant."
"Me too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"
"Baptist."
"Wow. Me too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"
"Baptist Church of God."
"Me too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"
"Reformed Baptist Church of God."
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 9:02 am
(May 21, 2014 at 8:36 am)alpha male Wrote: The Apostle's Creed would be a good place to start.
Can you explain why for the purpose of this topic?
Apostle's Creed
Quote:The Apostles' Creed (Latin: Symbolum Apostolorum or Symbolum Apostolicum), sometimes titled Symbol of the Apostles, is an early statement of Christian belief, a creed or "symbol".[1] It is widely used by a number of Christian denominations for both liturgical and catechetical purposes, most visibly by liturgical Churches of Western tradition, including the Roman Catholic Church, Lutheranism, Anglicanism, and Western Orthodoxy. It is also used by Presbyterians, Methodists, and Congregationalists.
This isn't very helpful when there are views like the following - Is Roman Catholicism and Christianity the same thing?
Quote:No, Roman Catholicism and Christianity are not the same thing.
So, even though Roman Catholicism claims to be Christian and that it is the one true church, it violates the essentials of the Christian faith. It goes beyond what is written in God's word (1 Cor. 4:6). It denies the sole and true sovereignty of the living God by promoting prayer to and the worship of Mary. Also, it denies justification by faith alone in Christ alone. It is not a Christian church.
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 9:29 am
The Lanover Baptists are the one, true Christians. I thought everyone already knew this...
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RE: Which Version Of Christianity Is The Correct One?
May 21, 2014 at 10:09 am
(May 21, 2014 at 9:02 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Can you explain why for the purpose of this topic? Because most Christian denominations accept it.
You could say that each Christian has different beliefs, making billions of forms of Christianity.
Yet, the vast majority of them accept the apostles' creed. So, you can say that there are two forms of Christianity - those that accept the apostles' creed, and those that don't.
The level of division is arbitrary.
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