Difficulty with theodicy is by far the weakest part of most religions but it is also a far cry from conclusive. Likewise the mystery of consciousness is the weakest point for materialistic atheism.
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What are some good checkmate arguments against religion?
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RE: What are some good checkmate arguments against religion?
May 23, 2014 at 11:27 pm
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(May 23, 2014 at 7:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Difficulty with theodicy is by far the weakest part of most religions but it is also a far cry from conclusive. Likewise the mystery of consciousness is the weakest point for materialistic atheism. It's as equally weak for theism because you can't demonstrate the alleged truth of any of the answers you supposedly have. Compared to all the other problems of religion, our biggest weakness is just one tiny star in religion's sky of critical and fundamental flaws. (May 23, 2014 at 4:23 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm only familiar with Epicurus saying: Your questions do nothing to disprove the existence of God. All they do is show that God isn't what you think he should be. (May 23, 2014 at 11:41 pm)Lek Wrote: Your questions do nothing to disprove the existence of God. All they do is show that God isn't what you think he should be. It isn't intended to disprove the existence of your god. What it does, successfully, is disprove the notion that your god is an omnipotent being of pure good. RE: What are some good checkmate arguments against religion?
May 24, 2014 at 12:33 am
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(May 23, 2014 at 4:23 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: Thanks in advantage. It just bothers me. It should be advance instead of what you used. (May 23, 2014 at 7:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Likewise the mystery of consciousness is the weakest point for materialistic atheism. I have no problem in comprehending consciousness. I honestly cannot understand why people get so hung up on it, as though it is the end all.
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~ Erin Hunter (May 23, 2014 at 6:18 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote: The Abrahamic religions can be dismissed with a simple hypothetical; The Biblical God character died when the last Babylonian Emperor died with the collapse of the Babylonian Empire. There's no invisible (or visible) celestial supernatural being that gives a damn about humans on Earth. (May 23, 2014 at 11:41 pm)Lek Wrote: Your questions do nothing to disprove the existence of God. All they do is show that God isn't what you think he should be.[emphasis is mine] Actually, it perfectly refutes what you christers claim he is.
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(May 23, 2014 at 7:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Likewise the mystery of consciousness is the weakest point for materialistic atheism. I really don't understand why you're so hot on this one particular argument from ignorance, Chad.
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May 24, 2014 at 1:49 am
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(May 23, 2014 at 7:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Difficulty with theodicy is by far the weakest part of most religions but it is also a far cry from conclusive. Likewise the mystery of consciousness is the weakest point for materialistic atheism. "Our own doctrine is internally contradictory, but <Supernatural exists>, <Soul exists> because <Argument from Ignorance>" (May 24, 2014 at 12:33 am)Kitanetos Wrote:(May 23, 2014 at 4:23 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: Thanks in advantage. Or metaphysical. Or rare. Or unique. RE: What are some good checkmate arguments against religion?
May 24, 2014 at 1:56 am
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(May 23, 2014 at 4:23 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: Do you have any of your own arguments? Yes. Reality. You're welcome. (May 23, 2014 at 7:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Difficulty with theodicy is by far the weakest part of most religions but it is also a far cry from conclusive. Likewise the mystery of consciousness is the weakest point for materialistic atheism. LOL. Sorry but "unexplained" doesn't mean "spiritual," it means unexplained. |
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