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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 10:26 am
(July 19, 2014 at 10:14 am)Siren Wrote: I have always been unsure if I am pro death penalty or not. For the most part I am against but then I here about those horrible people that kill/torture children and I think some people don't deserve to live. What if we had a maximum number of people that we could kill every year like 5 so then only the worst crimes would receive this penalty.
Not arguing on the death penalty, but the problem with your suggestion is that the number of people killed may not necessarily mean a more serious crime. A single barbaric death can be more serious than 5 simple murders depending on the circumstances.
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 10:31 am
In my opinion, it is more of a punishment to let them live long enough to see what they did wrong, than to give them the rest of death.
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 10:35 am
(July 19, 2014 at 10:26 am)Blackout Wrote: (July 19, 2014 at 10:14 am)Siren Wrote: I have always been unsure if I am pro death penalty or not. For the most part I am against but then I here about those horrible people that kill/torture children and I think some people don't deserve to live. What if we had a maximum number of people that we could kill every year like 5 so then only the worst crimes would receive this penalty.
Not arguing on the death penalty, but the problem with your suggestion is that the number of people killed may not necessarily mean a more serious crime. A single barbaric death can be more serious than 5 simple murders depending on the circumstances.
No I mean only 5 people would be sentenced with the death penalty.
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm
(July 19, 2014 at 10:35 am)Siren Wrote: (July 19, 2014 at 10:26 am)Blackout Wrote: Not arguing on the death penalty, but the problem with your suggestion is that the number of people killed may not necessarily mean a more serious crime. A single barbaric death can be more serious than 5 simple murders depending on the circumstances.
No I mean only 5 people would be sentenced with the death penalty.
In Japan it's only 1 person per year sometimes not even that, I'm still against it but hey it's preferable to executing 300 a year
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm
(July 19, 2014 at 9:28 am)Chad32 Wrote: (July 19, 2014 at 2:05 am)Minimalist Wrote: How many innocent people are you willing to kill to enable this vision of yours?
I'm willing to admit that no system is perfect, but as long as mistakes are few and ever shrinking, than we're doing something right.
You are inventing conditions which have no basis in reality.
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 4:46 pm
(July 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (July 19, 2014 at 9:28 am)Chad32 Wrote: I'm willing to admit that no system is perfect, but as long as mistakes are few and ever shrinking, than we're doing something right.
You are inventing conditions which have no basis in reality.
I'm not sure what you mean there. Are we not getting better at figuring out who is really guilty?
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm
Of course not.
When a prosecutor decides to do a little grandstanding by seeking the death penalty he has the full weight of the state and police departments behind him.
The defendant usually ends up with an overworked public defender.
Do you think that is even-handed?
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 5:27 pm
If there's a problem with getting overworked defense attorneys, then that's a problem that needs dealing with.
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2014 at 5:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
There's not alot of money in defending poor black people Chad. In the meantime though, while we fix these problems (not likely anytime soon) ...maybe we ought to keep our hands off the axe?
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RE: Death Penalty
July 19, 2014 at 6:28 pm
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(July 18, 2014 at 8:19 am)Blackout Wrote: Can I ask how does the US get so many sentences wrong? Is there a cause? For instance Japan still has capital punishment, but they very rarely use it, this year the first execution was on June I think.
There is no cause. You simply can't be 100% certain.
And anything less than 100% certainty in regards to capital punishment should be 100% unacceptable, even if you think it's okay for the state to carry out vengeance killing in the name of 'justice'.
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