Fundamentalist christian group to refuse accept any post with Harvey Milk Stamp on.

[thesummerqueen]

Pedophilia is when a 6 y.o. girl asks for an ice-cream cone and you put cold maple syrup on your dick and give her that.

I'm not going to lie - I laughed so fucking hard when I read your post.

[Godscreated]

Can I just say at this juncture that I haven't a single clue what all this is about, other than what I've seen here? I've never heard of any of these people or anything about the case. So any opinions I draw from the information provided can only be completely impartial and based solely on whatever facts are presented. Just as I try to do with any other story, similar or not. So there's at least one non-believer here who doesn't fit that description and I'm willing to bet there's plenty more.

Didn't I say most?

GC

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Read what you post the answers there, silly atheist.
Christians see a priest, a U.S. President, and a loud gay man all guilty of being a predator or pedophile when they have committed the crime, we do not hold any less responsible because of who they are, it's called absolute morality.
Most non believers make excuses for those they support, want find you defending a priest, even if he is a predator you call him a pedophile, as for the president you will only defend a democrat, but let a gay man be shown to be a predator and you will run to his defense and scream put his face on a stamp, he's a responsible person, that's objective morality good luck with the honesty in that.

Who is a predator? Please explain.

The issue here is that Milk was called a pedophile, but it is clear that he was not.

By definition h's e a predator, as far as I'm concerned he is a low life who cares only for himself, what happens to others as a result of his actions doesn't bother him, the limelight is all he cares about, 15 or 10 years old he's still a pedophile in my book as anyone else would be.

GC

[Chas]

Who is a predator? Please explain.

The issue here is that Milk was called a pedophile, but it is clear that he was not.

By definition h's e a predator, as far as I'm concerned he is a low life who cares only for himself, what happens to others as a result of his actions doesn't bother him, the limelight is all he cares about, 15 or 10 years old he's still a pedophile in my book as anyone else would be.

By whose 'definition'? Yours? You are an ignorant twat. You don't like him, so you will lie to continue attacking him.

Look up 'pedophile' in the dictionary. He wasn't one.

Go stick a crucifix up your ass and twist it around.

[thesummerqueen]

No one here feel bad for the family of the young man who killed himself because of Milk.

GC

I either managed to skim over the part where Milk had a relationship with this young man in California, or the relationship happened in NY. I suppose the point is moot, because as far as I can tell the age of consent with parental agreement in NY is 16, but without it is 18. At least by the records for today. I don't know if that's changed from the 1960's. In one website, I saw the age of consent for NY to be 17. Without knowing when exactly their relationship began, and what exactly the age of consent was back in the free-wheeling 60's, I can't establish clear context. If someone can help me ascertain this, I would appreciate it. Anyway, that puts Milk in statutory rape area, but not pedophilia. I also didn't see statements anywhere except in anti-gay propaganda that he preyed on "boys" (note the plural) - there are only specific relationships mentioned in his bio, and only one in the SR area. If there's evidence for him 'preying' on multiple young people, I'd like you to produce it. It's not that difficult - even for an ignorant carpenter.

I don't condone having relationships with people who are underage, and won't speculate as to whether or not the young man lied about his age - unless someone wants to produce more evidence than the notation in the address book.

I take deep offense with you assuming the reason why McKinley committed suicide, though. You just said you were a woodworker - not a psychologist. Don't presume to understand the effects of mental illness or how they manifest, particularly when combined with a sexuality preference that continues to receive extreme hatred.

[Cyberman]

Didn't I say most?

You did. I'm not sure you made the case for that qualifier; in my experience, I don't know of any. Certainly nobody on this forum, not in the way you characterised anyway.

[Godscreated]

By definition h's e a predator, as far as I'm concerned he is a low life who cares only for himself, what happens to others as a result of his actions doesn't bother him, the limelight is all he cares about, 15 or 10 years old he's still a pedophile in my book as anyone else would be.

By whose 'definition'? Yours? You are an ignorant twat. You don't like him, so you will lie to continue attacking him.

Look up 'pedophile' in the dictionary. He wasn't one.

Go stick a crucifix up your ass and twist it around.

Why do you think I said predator you idiot, can't you even read a simple statement and get it right you dumb cluck.

GC

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No one here feel bad for the family of the young man who killed himself because of Milk.

GC

I either managed to skim over the part where Milk had a relationship with this young man in California, or the relationship happened in NY. I suppose the point is moot, because as far as I can tell the age of consent with parental agreement in NY is 16, but without it is 18. At least by the records for today. I don't know if that's changed from the 1960's. In one website, I saw the age of consent for NY to be 17. Without knowing when exactly their relationship began, and what exactly the age of consent was back in the free-wheeling 60's, I can't establish clear context. If someone can help me ascertain this, I would appreciate it. Anyway, that puts Milk in statutory rape area, but not pedophilia. I also didn't see statements anywhere except in anti-gay propaganda that he preyed on "boys" (note the plural) - there are only specific relationships mentioned in his bio, and only one in the SR area. If there's evidence for him 'preying' on multiple young people, I'd like you to produce it. It's not that difficult - even for an ignorant carpenter.

I don't condone having relationships with people who are underage, and won't speculate as to whether or not the young man lied about his age - unless someone wants to produce more evidence than the notation in the address book.

I take deep offense with you assuming the reason why McKinley committed suicide, though. You just said you were a woodworker - not a psychologist. Don't presume to understand the effects of mental illness or how they manifest, particularly when combined with a sexuality preference that continues to receive extreme hatred.

I have no hatred for the man and I'm not an ignorant carpenter, carpenters build houses and buildings which I can do, I build furniture and ignorant people can do neither. I said by definition he's a predator, regardless what you think I said. Anyone who takes a 15 year old and uses them in the manner Milk did is a predator, regardless of the age of consent. A 15 or 16 year old hasn't the maturity to make such a decision.

GC

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Didn't I say most?

You did. I'm not sure you made the case for that qualifier; in my experience, I don't know of any. Certainly nobody on this forum, not in the way you characterised anyway.

Purposeful blindness is no excuse.

GC

[thesummerqueen]

Some people have more maturity at 16 than they do at 36. You don't know the situation, and again, you are not a psychologist. You remain a carpenter, and a resoundingly ignorant one on many subjects. Until you show some sort of non-religiously and carpenter-based knowledge about psychology, the psychology of minors and their ability to consent to sex (we let them drive death traps every day, for instance, but refuse to teach them anything intelligent about sexual matters), or show any knowledgeable insight into Milk's life beyond what the AFA shits out of their mouths, forgive me if I continue to think you're responding only to the usual Fox-News-whipped anger-froth.

[Godscreated]

Some people have more maturity at 16 than they do at 36. You don't know the situation, and again, you are not a psychologist. You remain a carpenter, and a resoundingly ignorant one on many subjects. Until you show some sort of non-religiously and carpenter-based knowledge about psychology, the psychology of minors and their ability to consent to sex (we let them drive death traps every day, for instance, but refuse to teach them anything intelligent about sexual matters), or show any knowledgeable insight into Milk's life beyond what the AFA shits out of their mouths, forgive me if I continue to think you're responding only to the usual Fox-News-whipped anger-froth.

[Cyberman]

You did. I'm not sure you made the case for that qualifier; in my experience, I don't know of any. Certainly nobody on this forum, not in the way you characterised anyway.

Purposeful blindness is no excuse.

GC

I agree. Care to cite some examples of people behaving as you describe?

[Chas]

By whose 'definition'? Yours? You are an ignorant twat. You don't like him, so you will lie to continue attacking him.

Look up 'pedophile' in the dictionary. He wasn't one.

Go stick a crucifix up your ass and twist it around.

Why do you think I said predator you idiot, can't you even read a simple statement and get it right you dumb cluck.

But that wasn't the discussion - it was about unjustifiably terming him a pedophile.

You just want to shift the goalposts once proven wrong.

You are dimwitted.