My girlfriend got discriminated by some of her family

[MJ the Skeptical]

So long as Sherry didn't actually overstep her bounds by trying to influence Spencer to be an atheist, I think the sister is way out of line. Even if she did overstep those bounds, writing her off forever is an extreme over-reaction. Whether there is a boundary there as far as teaching the kid about atheism or not is the sister's call, but the idea that even talking about atheism to a 12 year old being a mortal sin is past ridonkulous.

The only thing you can do is support Sherry through this time, and encourage dialogue between the two that is as far removed from high emotion as possible. Email is a great medium for that. You can spend a lot of time formulating what you want to say to a person while keeping their emotions and possible reactions in mind, so as to come to some sort of understanding and compromise rather than having a bare-knuckle brawl.

Yeah it was definitely not pushed and if he was uncomfortable he could have said so at any time, they talked for about an hour. I definitely want the sisters to work things out at least for the sake of Sherry's nephew. Sherry's very even keeled so I think it should work out, but who knows what goes on in the mind of believers sometimes. Sherry will probably just avoid bringing up the topic anymore. Thanks for your input and advice.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Discrimination: The practice of unfairly treating a person or group of people differently from other people or groups of people.

That's a reasonable definition, but not the only one.

Her sister is treating her like shit (unfairly) for being an atheist (treating her differently from others) and not allowing son to see Sherry.

You don't think a parent has the right to determine who her child does and does not spend time with?

What are you quibbling about?

About a minute, minute and a half. You?

Thanks for showing your support for someone being a complete asshole.

You're welcome.

What word would you use anyway,

'Parenting'.

this definition of discrimination fits. If you don't see this as discrimination or something similar, you're wrong.

Possibly, I'm wrong about quite a lot of things.

But suppose the situation was reversed. Imagine you have a child and a family member was talking up Jesus to that child. Which would you say, 'That's fine sweetie, take all the private time you want with Uncle Frim' or 'I don't want you around Uncle Frim any more.' Given you previous posts here and your general attitude regarding believers, if you answer you'd let your kid have all the talks he wants with Uncle Frim, you're lying.

And THAT'S discrimination, mate. A religious woman opts to keep her child away from atheists and you blow a gasket, but there's no possible doubt that you'd keep a child of yours away from religionists.

Slayer (because people really need to read your name twice)

No, but it might do you good to read this post twice and try to grasp the tremendous hypocrisy you're evincing.

Boru Boru (now you can read my name three times, fuckface)

[MJ the Skeptical]

Discrimination: The practice of unfairly treating a person or group of people differently from other people or groups of people.

That's a reasonable definition, but not the only one.

Everybody else knew the definition I was using. You're the only fuckwit who has a problem with my usage of the word and provided no alternative word to use for the situation. Discrimination is in the same category as Parenting? Moron.

You don't think a parent has the right to determine who her child does and does not spend time with?

You don't think that's discrimination? Retard alert. And no, I wouldn't not let my kids be around a family member just for expressing their religious beliefs, I'm not a discriminatory fascist trying to play thought police on my kids.

You're welcome.

If you were my kid, maybe I would discriminate against you, just so you understand lol.

'Parenting'.

Treating a family member unfairly, keeping them from seeing certain family members, yeah not discrimination at all, you retarded fuck. if you honestly think that's good parenting to shelter your children from dissent, then you're a bad shit parent, you're not teaching them critical thinking. What exactly did she do wrong? oh right, nothing. If the situation was reversed how would it not be discriminating, you can't hang out with him because he gave his opinions of god or a different god.

Possibly, I'm wrong about quite a lot of things.

Yes, you are. This is clear cut discrimination and you can't refute it, you just make excuses for it as parenting, well sure she can parent how she wants that doesn't mean she's not discriminating against her. Why did you even bother responding if you're too intellectually bankrupt to talk to. It's not discrimination! it's parenting to treat my own sister like shit. Wow, get the fuck out of here.

But suppose the situation was reversed. Imagine you have a child and a family member was talking up Jesus to that child.

Yeah you're right, I should discriminate against my family and shelter my kids from them for dissenting opinion.

Which would you say, 'That's fine sweetie, take all the private time you want with Uncle Frim' or 'I don't want you around Uncle Frim any more.'

They can come up with their own opinions, it's not up to me to make my kids opinions for them. Maybe you think kids are clones of their parents but I don't. And this goes farther than just her kids, she is treating Sherry like shit because she's an atheist where as she was nice before she knew she was an atheist, I mean most of her family knew but not all of them. Like I said, if you don't think this is discrimination, you are an unreasonable fuckwit.

Given you previous posts here and your general attitude regarding believers, if you answer you'd let your kid have all the talks he wants with Uncle Frim, you're lying.

Now you're making assumptions about me like I'm some kind of censorship whore like you are. Actually no, I love freedom of speech and I believe in argument and debate. I would discuss this with my kids, I would arm them with tools of skepticism and logic. I wouldn't need to worry too much about them becoming believers, and if they do. So what? why do you assume I wouldn't accept my kids if they were religious. That's quite fucking insulting and absurd of you to claim I'd be lying for saying I wouldn't mind if it was my kid and the uncle was christian.

And THAT'S discrimination, mate. A religious woman opts to keep her child away from atheists and you blow a gasket, but there's no possible doubt that you'd keep a child of yours away from religionists.

I'm discriminating against people who discriminate against others, even though I didn't discriminate I just gave my opinion? I'm not treating her sister like crap, she's not treating her sister like crap or differently, I don't even talk to her sister.

No, but it might do you good to read this post twice and try to grasp the tremendous hypocrisy you're evincing.

Irony meter broken. You're not recognizing the actual discrimination and then pointing the finger at me for pointing it out. How the fuck am I discriminating or being hypocritical. Learn the words you use before you use them dumbass.

Boru Boru (now you can read my name three times, fuckface)

Slayer slayer slayer (because nobody gives a fuck about my name at the end)

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Isn't it just a leeetle bit possible that you're over-reacting because your girlfriend is involved?

Boru

[MJ the Skeptical]

No one else seemed to think it wasn't discrimination and no I would consider it discrimination if it was a stranger, making more assumptions about people that since it's my girlfriend I care more, fuck off. Maybe it's you dipshit, think that's possible? nahhh, not a guy who writes his name after every fucking post like narcissist who think it means something.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

No one else seemed to think it wasn't discrimination and no I would consider it discrimination if it was a stranger, making more assumptions about people that since it's my girlfriend I care more, fuck off. Maybe it's you dipshit, think that's possible? nahhh, not a guy who writes his name after every fucking post like narcissist who think it means something.

So, what happens to your girlfriend matters to you exactly as much as what happens to a stranger?

Brian Narcissist Boru4

[MJ the Skeptical]

No one else seemed to think it wasn't discrimination and no I would consider it discrimination if it was a stranger, making more assumptions about people that since it's my girlfriend I care more, fuck off. Maybe it's you dipshit, think that's possible? nahhh, not a guy who writes his name after every fucking post like narcissist who think it means something.

So, what happens to your girlfriend matters to you exactly as much as what happens to a stranger?

Brian Narcissist Boru4

You don't care that a stranger (Sherry) is being discriminated against. So fuck you, this just proves you're also a sociopath.

Slayer Slayer Slayer Slayer (because it's still irrelevant and narcissistic).

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Narcissism: Inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; How is writing your name at the end not pretentious bullshit?

[OhWord]

Ladies, ladies, Please! You're both beautiful.

[MJ the Skeptical]

Oh look, someone trying to play the fence instead of taking a stance on the situation.

[OhWord]

Oh look, someone trying to play the fence instead of taking a stance on the situation.

Well, I am known for my neutrality.
Sort of like the Swiss of AF.