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Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
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RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 9, 2014 at 8:31 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Same bullshit happened to Dr. Tiller.

Fuck Tea Partiers and fuck pro-life anti-choicers.

Damn eco-tard pulled the same bullshit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...el-HQ.html
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#12
RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 12, 2014 at 9:39 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(June 9, 2014 at 8:31 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Same bullshit happened to Dr. Tiller.

Fuck Tea Partiers and fuck pro-life anti-choicers.

Damn eco-tard pulled the same bullshit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...el-HQ.html

Okay, can we agree on "fuck gun nutters and the dimwitted people in media and politics that enable them"?
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#13
RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 12, 2014 at 10:49 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(June 12, 2014 at 9:39 pm)Heywood Wrote: Damn eco-tard pulled the same bullshit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...el-HQ.html

Okay, can we agree on "fuck gun nutters and the dimwitted people in media and politics that enable them"?

Also, the DM is notoriously anti-global warming and goes to great lengths to discredit anything remotely linked to it. No doubt the guy was crazy, but that doesn't thus equate to global warming being false.
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RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(June 9, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Unless you count all the bodies from two illegal wars conservatives are responsible for, that is.

Well the president for those wars were started by good liberals JFK and LBJ and their wonderful escapade in Vietnam. Also there has been plenty of domestic leftwing terrorism in history.

Um, no.

Eisenhower sent the first troops in. He was hardly a liberal.

(June 12, 2014 at 10:49 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(June 12, 2014 at 9:39 pm)Heywood Wrote: Damn eco-tard pulled the same bullshit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...el-HQ.html

Okay, can we agree on "fuck gun nutters and the dimwitted people in media and politics that enable them"?

No, we can't. You seem to be calling any kind of wacko a 'gun nutter' if he happens to have a gun.

And the media demonize gun owners far more often than not. How is that 'enabling'?
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RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
I am not a fan of the word "terrorist". It elevates the sickos to freedom fighters in the eyes of their supporters. They should be treated as the mere thugs and criminals they are.

In the civil west we are supposed to accept that sometimes we win or lose elections and should value the peaceful transfer of power. Getting violent does not prove to me you are worthy of listening to.

Slamming planes into buildings, shooting abortion doctors, or murdering cops on a lunch break, makes you a murderer, not a hero. Violence takes no brains. Thinking through problem solving and conflict resolution does.

(June 13, 2014 at 7:10 am)Chas Wrote:
(June 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Well the president for those wars were started by good liberals JFK and LBJ and their wonderful escapade in Vietnam. Also there has been plenty of domestic leftwing terrorism in history.

Um, no.

Eisenhower sent the first troops in. He was hardly a liberal.

(June 12, 2014 at 10:49 pm)whateverist Wrote: Okay, can we agree on "fuck gun nutters and the dimwitted people in media and politics that enable them"?

No, we can't. You seem to be calling any kind of wacko a 'gun nutter' if he happens to have a gun.

And the media demonize gun owners far more often than not. How is that 'enabling'?

Bullshit argument. This is the same problem Harris has with liberal atheists and theists about enabling the zealots. You do not do humanity any favors by hiding be hind religion to protect nuts. Same with guns. You do not help yourself as a gun owner by getting angry at the people who know it is a problem. Instead you should be getting angry at the people who make it a problem.

"Not all people" is a bad argument which is not what we argue with religion or guns. All it takes is "just enough" to fuck things up for everyone.

Get angry at the right people instead of getting angry at the people who are merely pointing out a problem exists.
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RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 9, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I'm sure the republicunts love them.

Not Eric Cantor! Big Grin
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#17
RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 13, 2014 at 7:10 am)Chas Wrote:
(June 12, 2014 at 10:49 pm)whateverist Wrote: Okay, can we agree on "fuck gun nutters and the dimwitted people in media and politics that enable them"?

No, we can't. You seem to be calling any kind of wacko a 'gun nutter' if he happens to have a gun.

And the media demonize gun owners far more often than not. How is that 'enabling'?

What I mean to say is that making the second amendment an issue leads to gun promotion and puts more of them in the hands of the unbalanced. But this article was about more than that. Media types and government officials who openly talk of renewing democracy with a little blood letting are a problem. Open carry zealots are a problem. People are a problem who think they have a responsibility to judge at a personal level when their second amendment rights call for an overthrow of government.
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#18
RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 9, 2014 at 10:26 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:
(June 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Well the president for those wars were started by good liberals JFK and LBJ and their wonderful escapade in Vietnam.

And you'll never see me defend Vietnam as a just or necessary war.

Quote:Also there has been plenty of domestic leftwing terrorism in history.

There has never been a left-wing equivalent to the Tea Party in the United States in terms of numbers and political influence. Left-wing terror groups, such as they even were, always existed on the fringe.

We're not living in history. We're living in today, where the right wing of our political system advocates open revolt and the dismantling of whatever we have left that resembles democracy to the extent that it is open only to the right people. All, of course, in the names of the men who pioneered that system.

There is a left-wing equivalent to the Tea Party, the Occupy Wall Street lunatics. OWS was endorsed by both the American Nazi Party and the American Communist Party. One OWS protestor balmed Jews on Wall Street and five anarchists who participated in OWS protests were arrested in an FBI sting for plotting to blow up bridges in Cleveland, Ohio. According your judgement then, the far-left Occupy Wall Street movement is nothing but a left-wing terror group which is made up of anti-semites, nazis, commies, and murdering anarchists.
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#19
RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
As my only understanding of the tea party comes from the media, I'm hesitant to label them a terrorist organization, however, it's time we start holding accountable the people that cry "Revolution!" and then attempt to hide behind hyperbole. The violent rhetoric that the right has been using needs to be recognized as the danger it is.
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#20
RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
(June 13, 2014 at 11:59 am)A Theist Wrote: There is a left-wing equivalent to the Tea Party, the Occupy Wall Street lunatics. OWS was endorsed by both the American Nazi Party and the American Communist Party. One OWS protestor balmed Jews on Wall Street and five anarchists who participated in OWS protests were arrested in an FBI sting for plotting to blow up bridges in Cleveland, Ohio. According your judgement then, the far-left Occupy Wall Street movement is nothing but a left-wing terror group which is made up of anti-semites, nazis, commies, and murdering anarchists.

If you are grouping the Tea Party with Nazis and Communists in the lunatic fringe, I agree with you.
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