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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:20 pm
(June 19, 2014 at 3:18 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (June 19, 2014 at 3:12 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Your imperfection? In not agreeing with God to kill your son?
Yes. I'm allowed to be flawed. I know you think I'm perfect, but I'm not
God tells you to kill your son. You won't. That's a sign of
your imperfection? Seems to be it's a pretty damning thing for God to be telling you to do.
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:24 pm
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Indeed. And he can't be wrong so it's a pretty rebellious thing I'd be doing. Akin to murdering someone I guess.
But it's a silly question isn't it. One of those contradictions. Not to be taken seriously at all.
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:25 pm
(June 19, 2014 at 3:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Indeed. And he can't be wrong so it's a pretty rebellious thing I'd be doing. Akin to murdering someone I guess.
Aaaand there's the crystallization of my point. "He can't be wrong, so I must be". Completely toxic to any sort of genuine morality.
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm
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Like I said in my edit, the question is fallacious. Question begging beat your wife territory. Can a morally perfect God direct someone to commit a morally imperfect act. It's nonsense.
Conversely, an atheist Nazi convinced of his leaders correctness could bypass his morals and murder his Jewish son in good conscience. Apparently that isn't dangerous.
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm
(June 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Like I said in my edit, the question is fallacious. Question begging beat your wife territory. Can a morally perfect God direct someone to commit a morally imperfect act. It's nonsense.
If God can't be wrong, then how can anything he dictates be imperfect?
Also, if you don't mind, try writing your posts out in entirety before posting. I'm trying to respond you as timely as I can, and you constantly referring me back to edits is tiresome.
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm
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You're also editing. Pot kettle black.
Wait
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:32 pm
(June 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You're also editing. Pot kettle black.
Please answer the question.
(inb4 "check my edit I did")
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:35 pm
(June 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (June 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: If God can't be wrong, then how can anything he dictates be imperfect?
Exactly. It can't.
So....if God told you to kill your son...that could only be a perfect command...?
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
June 19, 2014 at 3:39 pm
Yes. So my disobeying would be me, or you, acting immorally from a position of perfect knowledge, where yours and my knowledge is imperfect.
An extreme request of a parent given the emotional bias. The reason the story has this extreme is to make a point.