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Jesus' Sacrifice

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Jesus' Sacrifice
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RE: Jesus' Sacrifice
January 10, 2010 at 3:15 pm
So if God was fully man... then... wha-?... Huh

That's to suggest he is not anymore fully man... so what happened to make him not fully man any more? If he was fully man till he died, then i suppose that he could be considered fully zombie since he resurrected.... but somehow i don't think that is your point Smile
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RE: Jesus' Sacrifice
January 10, 2010 at 3:15 pm
(January 10, 2010 at 3:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(January 10, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Saerules Wrote: So God -is _was_ fully man? Huh

Yes

(January 10, 2010 at 2:55 pm)A897 Wrote: why does god needs to be a human?

*forehead slap* Wink

Just to make it even simpler for humans to understand.

but they didn't understand did they. Jesus failed. By the way why does god want humans to join one single religion?
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January 10, 2010 at 3:20 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2010 at 3:22 pm by theVOID.)
(January 10, 2010 at 3:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(January 10, 2010 at 2:55 pm)Saerules Wrote: So God -is _was_ fully man? Huh

Yes

How can he be 100% man and himself in his own right at the same time? Did he stop being a mind outside of the universe for a time and become entirely human in Jesus or did he maintain his pre-jesus being during the life of Jesus? If the latter he cannot be entirely human.
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(January 10, 2010 at 2:55 pm)A897 Wrote: why does god needs to be a human?

*forehead slap* Wink

Just to make it even simpler for humans to understand.

Yeah becoming an illiterate Jew claiming to be God just like thousands of other supposed messiahs in the same time and place really seems like the sensible way to do it. They would have been more convinced of the validity by a burning bush talking Hebrew than another guy on the streets preaching.
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January 10, 2010 at 3:21 pm
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January 10, 2010 at 3:23 pm
(January 10, 2010 at 3:21 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: [Image: jesuschicks.jpg]

LOL I bought my boyfriend a shirt with that on it. The looks he gets could kill. LOL
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RE: Jesus' Sacrifice
January 10, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Sorry Leo, Jesus never got laid Smile
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January 10, 2010 at 3:25 pm
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January 10, 2010 at 3:34 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2010 at 3:43 pm by fr0d0.)
(January 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm)theVOID Wrote:
(January 10, 2010 at 2:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: 1. If God wasn't fully man.. then it wouldn't be much of a sacrifice.. but he was.

Except he wasn't, he was the transcendent mind and a human at the same time, so his 3 day inconvenience wasn't even a total inconvenience as he still existed in full during the time in question. He didn't even have to stop 'being' for a second.

Tell me, how does any of this gets remotely close to Sacrifice?

Well we're into VOID's translation here and only you are an authority on that.

No I get what you're saying. You think his being fully God negated the human suffering. Clearly he is saying that this isn't the case. The 100% human part experienced that. The actual putting to death is all that is needed for it to be a complete rejection that then is forgivable.

(January 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm)theVOID Wrote:
Quote:2. Jesus was already God

Is he God or like God? After Jesus died is there still a separate mind of Jesus in heaven in your view? Or did the minds merge?

Jesus was fully God and fully man - Jesus has always been a part of the God-head from the beginning.
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RE: Jesus' Sacrifice
January 10, 2010 at 3:39 pm
(January 10, 2010 at 3:25 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: [Image: jesus.jpg]

my sympathies with hammer guy!Big Grin
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January 10, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Quote:Jesus was fully God and fully man - Jesus has always been a part of the God-head from the beginning.
So he's leik 200% God? Smile
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