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Islam is true path of our lives
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
(July 14, 2014 at 1:47 am)ignoramus Wrote: maybe they're all Milwaukee Bucks fans? just saying?

Huh?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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There is nothing in good this religion, its ugly as a pigs arss.
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(July 13, 2014 at 11:22 pm)Ibn Kamal Wrote: Andalusia was one of the greatest periods of Islamic history, indeed it is a beacon in the history of mankind as a whole, because it was a source of knowledge on earth for many centuries, from which Europe learned all its lessons of civilization and civility. [...]

As a portuguese, I have seen some of the great architectonic marvels that the arabs left behind in the peninsula. Buildings attesting to their established presence and general acceptance.
However, had the peninsula remained muslim, I seriously doubt I would be able to be an atheist in this place. I may have not even come into existence! So, there's at least one good thing that came out of the "christian" conquest of the peninsula. Wink
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Ah dammit, wish I was here earlier so I could have fun with such immature statements. Having served my time as a Muslim all I can say is that in general the average Muslim has a very low IQ and logical fallacies are treated with great regard. But what can yu expect when you have a majority of Sunni Muslims following in the path of al-Ghazali, the man who "disproved" science and philosophy with logical fallacies. Stupidity is worn with a badge of honor yet common sense is shunned.
Gotta love the Ummah and its' failures
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(July 14, 2014 at 3:39 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 11:22 pm)Ibn Kamal Wrote: Andalusia was one of the greatest periods of Islamic history, indeed it is a beacon in the history of mankind as a whole, because it was a source of knowledge on earth for many centuries, from which Europe learned all its lessons of civilization and civility. [...]

As a portuguese, I have seen some of the great architectonic marvels that the arabs left behind in the peninsula. Buildings attesting to their established presence and general acceptance.
However, had the peninsula remained muslim, I seriously doubt I would be able to be an atheist in this place. I may have not even come into existence! So, there's at least one good thing that came out of the "christian" conquest of the peninsula. Wink

The Arabs were gonna be expelled from the peninsula sooner or later, luckily for us, no one really wanted them to remain. But I am surprised they actually allowed Christian people to keep their religion, sure they encouraged conversion to Islam but the Christians could pay a money quantity and remain Christians, except for a few areas in the peninsula where they were actually persecuted. I studied the Arab occupation further in Law History class, and despite their cultural or historical importance, the contribution to our legal system is probably close to zero, maybe four or five words were made or have an Arab connotation, but they didn't really change our legal system and there is nothing alike in comparison between theirs and ours.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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I've been listening to a lot of audio books about history and it was pretty common back then for rulers to allow the conquered people to practice their religion as long as they all got along and paid their taxes.

Gengis Khan promoted religious freedom, and he was very sly with diplomacy and I think he even used it as an excuse to attack places under the guise of liberating people from religious tyranny.
I've heard the romans liked people to worship many gods because this meant they could all get along with one another, which is why at first they disliked Christianity so much because they believed in only one god.


Quote:As the Romans extended their dominance throughout the Mediterranean world, their policy in general was to absorb the deities and cults of other peoples rather than try to eradicate them,[4] since they believed that preserving tradition promoted social stability.[5] One way that Rome incorporated diverse peoples was by supporting their religious heritage, building temples to local deities that framed their theology within the hierarchy of Roman religion.

Quote:Mongols were highly tolerant of most religions, and typically sponsored several at the same time. At the time of Genghis Khan in the 13th century, virtually every religion had found converts, from Buddhism to Christianity and Manichaeanism to Islam. To avoid strife, Genghis Khan set up an institution that ensured complete religious freedom, though he himself was a shamanist. Under his administration, all religious leaders were exempt from taxation, and from public service.[1] Mongol emperors were known for organizing competitions of religious debates among clerics, and these would draw large audiences.

I seriously doubt that any large military campaign which expands an empire from Muslims, Mongols, Romans or anyone else was really as a charitable act to help out other countries.

I think you would have to be very niave or very bias or both to believe that the entire Muslim conquest of all these countries went perfectly smoothly, was in total self defence and every conquered people loved the new arrival of the Muslims.


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(July 13, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Ibn Kamal Wrote: "The Repentance - سورة التوبة
[9:5] And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah(taxes), let them go on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
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When you read a particular verse of the Quran, if it is not clear, you have to try and consider the context of a particular verse.

This verse refers to those pagans who would continue to fight after the period of peace. It clearly commands the Muslims to protect those who seek peace and are non-combatants. It is a specific verse with a specific ruling and can in no way be applied to general situations. The command of the verse was only to be applied in the event of a battle.

Therefore, if the pagans would not cease their hostilities towards the Muslims, then they were to be fought, especially since they were living in the land of an Islamic state.

This is all about self-defense, which Islam clearly emphasize on throughout the Quran. It's pure justice.

Thank you.

Peace.

ROFLOL I guess this makes the current attacks by ISIS entirely justifiable. Since you are a Muslim and a big supporter of al-Qaeda which all Muslims are despite saying otherwise in public eye. Can you justify 9/11 for me?
I know you support the Taliban as well because again, all Muslims do(not exactly all but most enough). I am a good ol' fashioned murtad so I know Muslims better than anybody on this board ever could.

Oh yes why is it exactly Muhammad likes beheading boys? I know he was a pedophile but was he a sexual sadist of some sort?

Abu Dawud Wrote:Book 38, Number 4390:
Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:

I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.
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Quote:I think you would have to be very niave or very bias or both to believe that the entire Muslim conquest of all these countries went perfectly smoothly, was in total self defence and every conquered people loved the new arrival of the Muslims.


Actually, you'd have to be dumb as a fucking rock but lots of muslims qualify.
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Yes, the Muslim expansion was in the conquered's best interest! Saving them from those vile Goths. Of course!

Just like the Christians, when massacring the pagans from 300AD on or so, were doing it *for* the pagans!

Saving them from the Fires of Hell naturally. How much more in their best interest could it have been?
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(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: Islam is the most logical path with all beliefs practical and implement able within society.

Islam is the most beautiful because the morals, virtues it exemplifies even secular students of morals and ethics admit it as the standard of morality in humans life.

I ask all atheists here to

1. worship only Allah.
2. Live with peace, kindness, respect of others
3. Don't attack anybody first, only use self defense as the Quran states
4. Give to the poor and orphans
5. Ask me any questions regarding Islam

It's the true path and when you are on it your life will improve mentally and possibly materialistically as well

I don't like the way you treat women, to take just one example . It's not the true path or even a moral path. How about the women and children on the airplanes that devout muslims hijacked and flew into the WTC? How had they attacked you?
And the 7/7 tube bombings in London. Again, innocent people . Some of the victims were in fact muslim women. I suppose they forfeited their lives because they were not dressed according to your tenets.
I can do 2, 3, 4 above without being part of any religion.
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
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