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Islam is true path of our lives
#21
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
(July 13, 2014 at 4:28 am)ignoramus Wrote: Are you crazy man!
You joined an "English" atheist website and ask us to pray to "Allah"
We don't believe your god is evil as we are pretty sure he doesn't even exist.
But what your culture is doing in his name is an abomination.

I have no time for anybody or any culture who treats their woman as second grade citizens!

I hope you do realize that Islam is not a culture. That people of various and very differing cultures are Muslims as well.

You don't have to take my word on this though. This can all he verified through independent research. It can also be verified that women are indeed no where near second class citizens, but equal to men. Islam is an egalitarian religion
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#22
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
@OceanWave
-1. Because it's He that created you. He put you into this world, he gave you senses
The Christians are telling me the same stuff. How do I know they are wrong and you're telling the truth?

-2. Quran 2:190
"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."
Any verse referring to fighting infidels is only after there attacked first and become transgressors

Well, there's the problem. There's a contradiction. In The Repentance, Allah explicitly states that polytheists should be killed for being "infidels" for no apparent reason. Why is Allah bothered by the presence of other gods when He knows that He's the only true god?

-3. His appearance is something only He can fully know. We can't ever fully comprehend Him. But He can fully comprehend us.
I knew you were going to say something like this. Please give me a finite answer, because I'm so curious what Muslims think of their god's appearance.
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#23
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
(July 13, 2014 at 6:40 am)Darwinian Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: Islam is the most logical path with all beliefs practical and implement able within society.

Islam is the most beautiful because the morals, virtues it exemplifies even secular students of morals and ethics admit it as the standard of morality in humans life.

I ask all atheists here to

1. worship only Allah.
2. Live with peace, kindness, respect of others
3. Don't attack anybody first, only use self defense as the Quran states
4. Give to the poor and orphans
5. Ask me any questions regarding Islam

It's the true path and when you are on it your life will improve mentally and possibly materialistically as well

Of course I understand that most Muslims are ordinary people who, just like the rest of us, are simply trying to make sense of the world and do as little harm as possible.

However, whenever I hear the term Islam or Muslim in the news it is always* associated with violence, aggression, slaughter, misogyny etc. etc. just as whenever a news report starts with 'a Catholic Priest' it always seems to finish with child abuse, rape etc.

So I hope that you will forgive me if I refuse to sign up to your wicked ideology and live my life according to my own standards and principles. May I also suggest you put your clock forward, about 1400 years.

* I'd like to say invariably or often but alas, that simply isn't the case.


I think it's very silly to store info as legitimate coming from mainstream news sources like CNN, MSNBC, Fox, ABC, even Al Jazeera.

There's a consensus amongst many, including non Muslims that there's a purposeful smear campaign on these "media outlets " attempts to demonize Muslims. Why? Because it makes maintaining military bases easier and more acceptable for the populaces receiving this propaganda.

1. It makes it easier to forget more than 1 million Iraqi citizens have been killed
2. Easier to forget hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed in Afghanistan including thousand of children
3. Easier to forget low thousands families killed by drone attacks in Pakistan and Yemen
4. It makes it easier to forget the UK/US in past century has been an active imperialist/colonialist powers with coups sponsored all over the globe from Asia to Africa to South America
5. It makes it easier to forget the media is a mouthpiece of the western military complex.
6. Makes it also easier to forget what the NSA is doing and how liberties of Americans are being violated increasingly
7. Makes It easier to forget the Taliban was created with is help, bin laden was a CIA agent "orginally, or that UK instilled the Baathist regime in Iraq of saddam. Or that UK helped Saud family take power ( see treaty of Jeddah 1927)
8. Also easy to forget who's funding these Al Qaeda rebels in syria fighting the government ( UK, France, Saudi, Qatar, us)

9. all these things can be conveniently put aside if you just want to maintain the status who in your mind and maintain your own version of reality. But there are many who refuse to remain ignorant.

(July 13, 2014 at 8:02 am)Blackout Wrote: So I can beat my girlfriend right? If Islam was the right faith I'd rather kill myself


It's silly first of of all to have a " girlfriend " a relationship defined only by words where time is invested but nothing fruitful comes out of it.

There is a substitution to having a girlfriend in Islam. CAlled " nikah mutah"" or temporary marriage. Even the classi " permanent marriage" is technically temporary
As it can be ended. But with the nikah Mutah you can sign on a paper and the girl had to as well how long you wanna be in his marriage and can renew when you want. AND if a child is born the child has full rights as if t was the classical marriage type.

That's logical.
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#24
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
Since you seem to like lists:

1. Suck my dick
2. Swallow my load
3. Bring me a sandwich and beer
4. Then we'll talk.

5. Who do you think is responsible for more muslim deaths, the west or fellow muslims? This certainly doesn't exclude wrongful deaths, but you might want to start with some perspective if you're looking for a solution. Seems ending violence by the religion of peace would be an easy feat.

6. Your insinuation that Islam is good; however, some pratcitioners are bad is complete bullshit. How long do you honestly think it takes someone to pull up bullshit from your holy book that contradicts this sentiment? Even worse for your position is the fact that you openly admit your religion is impotent when it comes to controlling the behavior of its most ardent followers. Why the fuck would I embrace something that's so ineffective?

7. You cannot prove Allah and you cannot prove that anything written in the Koran came from Allah, directly or inspired. The fact that you want to foist this bullshit on others means you are inhumane.

8. Go blow Muhammed out yer ass.
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#25
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
But what if I believe in Breath of Fire 2, which shows that worshiping a deity that you have never seen is most unwise for the great evil sealed in the underworld has played tricks on the common folk into thinking him holy and just? Every time they worship it they give more and more power to the forgotten ancient horror. Through mindless prayer he only grows stronger and will one day have the power to unseal his prison and demolish this world. The true Dragon God, who really is holy and divine cares not for worship or acknowledgement for he/she is beyond petty needs of ego boosts and lives without the desire of having to be loved and worshiped.

I mean, I don't believe in it, but I'm just saying it sounds just as logical as any other deity or demon.
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#26
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
We don't appreciate preaching around here. Evidence, or gtfo.
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#27
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
If Islam is right why can't I get a sex slave?
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#28
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
My wife talks back to me so what should I do about that?
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#29
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
(July 13, 2014 at 9:16 am)Elskidor Wrote: My wife talks back to me so what should I do about that?
Suspicion of misbehaving is enough for you to beat her. Do it or you're not a true muslim
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#30
RE: Islam is true path of our lives
I tried but she put me in a headlock and tossed me outside and locked the door. She said if i tried again she'd call the cops.
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