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Modern feminism
#31
RE: Modern feminism
(July 20, 2014 at 9:28 am)whatev Wrote:
(July 20, 2014 at 8:52 am)Losty Wrote: If you personally think it's immoral that is your prerogative.
If you try to make a person (regardless of their gender) feel guilty for their sexual behavior, then that is slut shaming.

I don't think so. (Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong of course.) I think slut shaming is specifically about coming down harder on women than on men.

Maybe that's because you've been taught to believe that only women can be sluts Wink

The truth is in the definition (which I posted). Men very rarely have to deal with slut shaming but any time you shame a person for their sexual behaviors (obviously barring things like rape) it is slut shaming.

Whatev Wrote:Rape culture -to me- is about dismissing rape with an attitude of "boys will be boys". One sex's youthful hijinks can't make the other sex's violation okay. Suppressing what may come naturally is precisely what is at stake. Pro-social behavior means not sticking your dick where it isn't welcome (unless you're play acting of course).

I have a hard time believing that rape is a natural male urge that must be suppressed. People are not that good at suppressing their natural urges. If that was the case the majority of men would be rapists.
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#32
RE: Modern feminism
(July 20, 2014 at 11:36 am)Little lunch Wrote: Critcising promiscuous behaviour is the practice of devaluing a person to the level of merchandise, further devaluing them every time they're used.

Equality is generations away. Sexism is so entrenched in society that even many women can't see it and if they do they are suddenly feminazis.

Don't be ridiculous, do you even know what a 'feminazi' is? The people who tried to cancel Colbert and tried to cancel Fathers day. They are the people we refer to when we use the term 'feminazi'. Its kind of a general term we use for bad feminists who are such hypocrites refusing to see double standards, feminists who hate men, feminists who are just as sexist as they claim men to be.

(July 20, 2014 at 11:36 am)Little lunch Wrote: I think women and men can be concerned about all sexist problems, big or small, no matter what country.

You are one of those people who wants everyone to use gender neutral words, aren't you? Instead of saying 'he' or 'she' you want us to say 'schlee'?

(July 20, 2014 at 11:36 am)Little lunch Wrote: There are mothers in Africa who pound their daughter's breasts with rocks everyday until they're flat so they won't get raped but they still get raped anyway.

Bad men exist, deal with it.

(July 20, 2014 at 11:36 am)Little lunch Wrote: I've seen a picture of a little girl crying and holding a bag of lollies. She'd just had her clitoris cut off.

Again, bad men exist. We are not denying that sexism against women is real, but in the west, feminism is a joke, they have nothing left to fight for and so attack anything that can vaguely be interpreted as sexist towards women. You never hear the public outcry of feminists who attack a tv advert where a hansom muscled man is advertising something with his top off. But if the gender was switched, feminazis would be all over it. Equality and sexism works both ways, the bad feminists tend to forget that.

(July 20, 2014 at 11:36 am)Little lunch Wrote: These are bad images. Enough to make a sexist man say,'what are our women complaining about, they've got it so good.'
So I think there's a danger in that.

No there isn't any danger in that. In the west, women have just as many rights as men, infact they get special treatment on occasions, child custody, length of prison sentances for the same crime etc...

What the bad feminists are doing today is the equivalent of me complaining that my 50inch plasma LED 3D HD TV, isn't as good as the new curved screen models, while simultaneously watching a child in Africa starving to death on that TV.
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#33
RE: Modern feminism
"What the bad feminists are doing today is the equivalent of me complaining that my 50inch plasma LED 3D HD TV, isn't as good as the new curved screen models, while simultaneously watching a child in Africa starving to death on that TV."

I feel like you have no crossed the line on the opposite side of the field.

Just because other women in other countries are worse off does not mean that there is no sexism in the US or that sexism in the US isn't something that we should speak out against.
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#34
RE: Modern feminism
(July 20, 2014 at 11:57 am)Losty Wrote: Just because other women in other countries are worse off does not mean that there is no sexism in the US or that sexism in the US isn't something that we should speak out against.

I didn't say those things and I didn't mean to imply them.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#35
RE: Modern feminism
My general opinion on feminism is the following:

I think feminism, as a movement that strives for gender equality, should be encouraged and promoted as an attempt to congregate basic fundamental rights. But, I am against incoherent behaviour by feminists, the kind of behaviour (just using a classical example) of 'I want to make the same wage as men, but men should pay for my dinners otherwise they are not real men' or 'women should be independent, men are all a bunch of pigs', seriously, if you want equality for women you should have coherent worthy conducts, not contradicting ones, feminazis are the reason so many people, specially males, seem to hate feminists (it gives origin to a stereotype).

I also support positive discrimination for both sexes, depending on the situation. The case of the mother having a higher period of time absence of work to be with her newborn, or the man being chosen more frequently for a highly physically demanding job because men on average have more physical strength - I don't consider this discrimination, but practical choices to benefit society

When I go camping with my girlfriend I always put the tent and she organizes stuff inside, is this some kind of gender roles? Not really, she is just better at putting stuff at their places and organizing everything, I have more strength therefore I put the tent in it's place as secure as possible, we are simply making the most efficient profit of our optimal skills.

I also think feminists should start worrying more about States where women in fact have fewer rights and are treated below animals instead of worrying about society in the west having prejudices with women dressed with a top the size of a bra.
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#36
RE: Modern feminism
Woman

Man

Human rights.
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#37
RE: Modern feminism
(July 20, 2014 at 2:54 pm)Blackout Wrote: I also think feminists should start worrying more about States where women in fact have fewer rights and are treated below animals instead of worrying about society in the west having prejudices with women dressed with a top the size of a bra.
That there are places on earth where things are even shittier is no reason to lay aside any particular place where they are still shitty, but arguably less so. If we avoided fixing problems until all other more egregious problems were addressed that would, itself - become an egregious problem. To whit, sure, cancer is a thing - but I'm trying to breed a better tomato at present.
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#38
RE: Modern feminism
(July 20, 2014 at 3:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(July 20, 2014 at 2:54 pm)Blackout Wrote: I also think feminists should start worrying more about States where women in fact have fewer rights and are treated below animals instead of worrying about society in the west having prejudices with women dressed with a top the size of a bra.
That there are places on earth where things are even shittier is no reason to lay aside any particular place where they are still shitty, but arguably less so. If we avoided fixing problems until all other more egregious problems were addressed that would, itself - become an egregious problem.
Sure, but spending most resources fixing a less important problem is not worth the time. It's like a doctor healing a patient who twisted an ankle instead of performing a surgery to save someone near death. It doesn't mean we shouldn't simultaneously fix the less important issue, but we should put more effort into the serious one

And the stereotype attributed to women wearing tops the size of a bra is perfectly rational here. Stereotypes are not bad nor god, they just are. If most women wearing those tops wouldn't bang every guy on the block the prejudice wouldn't exist.
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#39
RE: Modern feminism
Nope I don't think we should be spending our resources in other countries more than in our own.

Why can't women wearing whatever size tops bang however many men/women as they please without anyone else thinking it's any of their damn business?
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#40
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Modern feminists just need a decent cock to fuck their hungry pussies. I will give my time to teach them what a decent man is Big Grin
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