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Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 7:20 am
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Thoughts anybody?
Is the wage gap a myth? I have heard before that it is but have never bothered to do any actual research into it. From what I have heard however, men get paid more simply because they hold more higher paying jobs. I pretty much agree with the rest of what it says.
Are they still fighting in the trenches but the war is over? (in the west at least)
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 7:27 am
Yep, I agree with everything except the pay gap part.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 7:38 am
and lose the nose thing!
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 7:42 am
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I hate feminazis, not feminists... I guess it will depend, if a woman lives in a society where she is treated equally before the law, same payment for same job and is in general equal to men, I don't see a reason to be a feminist whatsoever.
By the way what is that stuff about 'disarming women?'
As for rape, it's merely a matter of the physical stronger sex dominating the other, it happens in nature, it happens merely because men have more physical strength, if it was otherwise women would be raping men too.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 7:44 am
(July 20, 2014 at 7:27 am)Losty Wrote: Yep, I agree with everything except the pay gap part.
So it isn't a myth? Have you been paid less than a man for the same job?
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 7:46 am
(July 20, 2014 at 7:27 am)Losty Wrote: Yep, I agree with everything except the pay gap part.
As for the wage gap, it will pretty much depend where you live. The problem that makes some people hate feminists is that they claim discrimination just because on average men make more than women. Why is this fallacious? Very simple, it is not discrimination if a gender earns more, as long as it is earned trough a higher rank job, it is only discrimination if the same jobs earns both different salaries. I could as well argue that black people where I live earn less, the same goes for immigrants, is that really discrimination? I don't think so, one thing I've learned with my dad (he was a CEO in a small company, his own) is that if you're good to have a high ranking job no one will care about your gender or race if you're the best they can find, and it's true.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 7:50 am
what exactly is she saying about rape culture? Also is she saying modern fems slut shame or they dont?
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 8:00 am
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(July 20, 2014 at 7:44 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: (July 20, 2014 at 7:27 am)Losty Wrote: Yep, I agree with everything except the pay gap part.
So it isn't a myth? Have you been paid less than a man for the same job?
I am a stay at home mom 
http://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/7...wp0311.pdf
Wage gap exists. I don't think it's nearly as bad in the US as some would have us believe, but it is real. I don't know how real. It's hard to find information that isn't biased.
Also, I must say that while the rape, beating, and murder if women (not only Muslim women) around the world is a much bigger issue than slut shaming, we don't really have that problem so much in the US. So when it comes standing up and speaking out within my own country, maybe the slut shaming problem actually is more important.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 8:01 am
I tend to distrust shrill people by instinct.
I got into a discussion with a lady named Sarah Braasch on an atheist blog, taking issue with her using the term "gender genocide" to describe sexism in America. I have the same sort of issue with the idea of "rape culture", insofar as it hyperbolizes an issue to the point of caricature, thus devaluing it of any usefulness. Too many feminists are too quick to excoriate those who don't agree 100% with them. Too many feminists don't want a dialogue; they want a harangue.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 8:05 am
(July 20, 2014 at 8:01 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I tend to distrust shrill people by instinct.
I got into a discussion with a lady named Sarah Braasch on an atheist blog, taking issue with her using the term "gender genocide" to describe sexism in America. I have the same sort of issue with the idea of "rape culture", insofar as it hyperbolizes an issue to the point of caricature, thus devaluing it of any usefulness. Too many feminists are too quick to excoriate those who don't agree 100% with them. Too many feminists don't want a dialogue; they want a harangue.
I disagree both of the extreme sides on the rape culture issue. Yes it's real, yes it's a problem, no it's not just women who are raped or men who rape. Statutory rape is over penalized. Rape victims are blamed far too often. Teaching people to protect themselves should never be considered slut shame, not that it will help in most rape cases but it will never hurt. The whole thing is a big mess. I find I tend to disagree with everyone on this issue. Lol
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