Gross.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
- Thomas Jefferson
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Christians. Could you be wrong?
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 (September 17, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The man has clearly preformed scientific experiment on the negative of the photograph, documented every procedure he used, and found that there had to be a light at that position to strike the negative, the only conclusion is the supernatural, because lights just don't hang over peoples heads normally. You obviously haven't had a photography class or much experience with cameras. Those types of reflections/refraction happen ALL THE TIME. Getting RID of them is the bitch. The camera frequently picks up odd quirks of light, the human eye does not see. Just like audio microphones pick up sounds we don't hear. Durrrrrrr. Basic, basic stuff. Quote:But I like the fact that when presented with scientific evidence, you refuse to acknowledge it. I saw no scientific evidence presented; only someone's self-stated "opinion".  
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson 
What credentials do I need to evaluate what you call evidence for whatever it is you're claiming? What are your credentials for presenting it? Or are you merely hiding behind those of your man? In which case my question stands: do we accept the truth of the claim purely on the credentials of the claimant? If so, then account for Hale's elf. At least we got a telescope out of it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (September 17, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The man has clearly preformed scientific experiment on the negative of the photograph, documented every procedure he used, and found that there had to be a light at that position to strike the negative, the only conclusion is the supernatural, because lights just don't hang over peoples heads normally. You call that science? Oh, the "only conclusion is the supernatural," there? Okay class, can we say "the argument from ignorance is not scientific evidence, Huggy"? 
(September 17, 2014 at 1:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What credentials do I need to evaluate what you call evidence for whatever it is you're claiming? What are your credentials for presenting it? Or are you merely hiding behind those of your man? In which case my question stands: do we accept the truth of the claim purely on the credentials of the claimant? If so, then account for Hale's elf. At least we got a telescope out of it. Have you ever observed dark matter? 
Just to reiterate, Lacy's report simply states that he is reasonably certain that the photo had not been tampered with, and that the "halo" was simply light. The supernatural is far from the only explanation for the appearance of a blob of light in a photo. Far more likely is that it's just that; a blob of light, which are pretty common in pictures even today. I doubt anyone would see a lens-flare effect in a photo today and think that it was anything but a trick of the light.
Then again, people used to think that rainbows were god's promise not to flood the world.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
"used to" he says-
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