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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 1:20 pm
(September 21, 2014 at 12:24 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think the way to understand the true value of the Bible is to read and study it.
Fine, but unless you evaluate and compare it with the things claimed for it - actual historical events, real-world science etc - there's always the propensity to rationalise those claims presuppositionally. In other words, confirmation bias. You should always be seeking ways to falsify the thing under analysis.
As a starting example, borrowed from one of our number: try to reconcile the four gospels with each other and with what we know of actual history. Do this with an eye for falsification.
(September 21, 2014 at 12:24 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It does seem a little extreme, but I am not really woreied about it. If I die and God does exist I know where I'll be.
I don't fear nor worry about my death either, for reasons that have nothing to do with any gods. But consider if you die and it's lights out. Will you have lived your life fulfilling your potential as the best human it was possible for you to be, or on your knees enslaving your mind to a vague promise of post-mortem reward just on the remotest of possibilities it might happen? Pascal's Wager is an horrendously flawed proposition on which to base one's life, and I am truly at a loss why anyone should even want to entertain such a horrible concept.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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I think when I die and its lights out I will be satisfied will my life, sure there will be a few regrets but overall it is fine.
(September 21, 2014 at 1:15 pm)ShaMan Wrote: (September 21, 2014 at 1:10 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Ohh yea... I don't think there is anything to convince me to not believe in God. Fair enough. I appreciate your honesty and I respect your conviction. I believed in god (and could not have been persuaded otherwise) for many years, and I eventually overcame that need. Please do yourself a kindness and remain open. Perhaps 'god' will do for you as [he] did for me, and set you free.
I already feel set free.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 1:32 pm
(September 21, 2014 at 1:23 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I already feel set free. Good for you! Sincerely. Now if most christisns would recognize that others (non-christians) also feel free, and have no need for a god, the world would be a better place.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 1:34 pm
It is really down to personal opinion of what makes you feel free.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Is it, you mean I won't be getting skullfucked by pixies in what dreams may come after all?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 1:38 pm
Good to hear, carm. When I die, hopefully still an atheist, what do you suppose my post-mortem fate might be?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 1:55 pm
(September 21, 2014 at 1:38 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Good to hear, carm. When I die, hopefully still an atheist, what do you suppose my post-mortem fate might be?
Why do you ask?
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 2:01 pm
(September 21, 2014 at 1:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Why do you ask? ![[Image: animated-smileys-eating-drinking-010.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.animated-smileys.com%2Femoticons%2Fanimated-smileys-eating-drinking-010.gif)
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 2:05 pm
We need more popcorn!!!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 21, 2014 at 2:13 pm
@ C4RM5...
What do you think about the professor's prediction?
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