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RE: Gods chosen people in Israel murder 1800 Palestinians and injure 10,000 in Gods name.
August 11, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Quote:Surely no different than the kind of stuff they did in the old testament.
The difference being, of course, that the OT bullshit did not happen....today is all too real.
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RE: Gods chosen people in Israel murder 1800 Palestinians and injure 10,000 in Gods name.
August 11, 2014 at 5:36 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 11:32 am)Chad32 Wrote: I'm not sure why the Jews think that is their promised land, when they've had to fight over it from day 1. They had to steal it from other tribes after leaving Egypt, and they've been in bloody conflict over it ever since.
This is so true, you hit the nail on the head
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RE: Gods chosen people in Israel murder 1800 Palestinians and injure 10,000 in Gods name.
August 11, 2014 at 5:44 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 5:36 pm)psychoslice Wrote: (August 11, 2014 at 11:32 am)Chad32 Wrote: I'm not sure why the Jews think that is their promised land, when they've had to fight over it from day 1. They had to steal it from other tribes after leaving Egypt, and they've been in bloody conflict over it ever since.
This is so true, you hit the nail on the head
May as well...
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August 11, 2014 at 6:05 pm
I've never seen that video before. I have seen one where people are talking in a concentration camp, and come to the conclusion that their god may have simply made a new covenant with new people.
If anything can be gathered from history, I'd say that land is cursed.
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August 11, 2014 at 7:07 pm
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2014 at 7:08 pm by Minimalist.)
Frankly.... a lot of it looks like a shithole.
Fucking god would be a lousy real estate broker.
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August 11, 2014 at 7:19 pm
I'm sure it looks much like any place where people have been warring for thousands of years. Milk and honey my butt. It's nothing but a trap.
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RE: Gods chosen people in Israel murder 1800 Palestinians and injure 10,000 in Gods name.
August 11, 2014 at 7:21 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 10:57 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't think this conflict is about religion as such. It's more a difference of ideas about whose land it happens to be.
You know, I watched a Louis Theroux documentary on the Israel/Palestine conflict just recently, if there's one thing it made me realise, it's that it's exactly because of religion that the Jews and Palestinians are at odds.
A difference about whose land it happens to be, yeah, and why do they have this difference? Because the Jews claim the land as their holy land. The Zionist settlers are stealing the Palestinian's land, precisely because they believe it is theirs by divine right. If it weren't for religion, it's highly unlikely this particular issue would even exist.
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August 11, 2014 at 7:33 pm
Minimalist , that video "this land is mine" was fantastic, I will certainly be sharing that one.
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August 11, 2014 at 10:08 pm
Enjoy.
I don't hold the copyright on it. In fact, its all over the web so whoever does is shit out of luck.
Probably some jewish lawyer!
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RE: Gods chosen people in Israel murder 1800 Palestinians and injure 10,000 in Gods name.
August 12, 2014 at 10:58 am
(August 11, 2014 at 10:57 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't think this conflict is about religion as such. It's more a difference of ideas about whose land it happens to be. The Palestinians believe its theirs because they've lived there for almost two thousand years, the Jews think its theirs because they stole it more recently.( but still over a generation ago).
Yes it is. Arguing the dodges with claims of "ethnic" "race" as land entitlement does not change that "Jew" is based on "Hebrew" which is a religion and the Talmud is a Hebrew book.
Islam is the only other dominate religion in that area, and yes, Arabs try to claim it is secular too. But when you look at the bigger history long term, you cannot avoid religion as being the cause.
But if someone wants to make it secular even in that case it still amounts to "I am fine with the other as long as I am top of the social pecking order".
The secular excuses on both sides are simply dodges.
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