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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
August 29, 2014 at 9:29 am
(August 29, 2014 at 5:51 am)Ben Davis Wrote: (August 27, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:
I'd just like to make a point on institutionalised sexism as apparent in the language used. Equality is not something that 'men can give to women' rather all people, irrespective of sex, should work together to ensure that those who would withhold equality do not get continue making the decisions as they directly cause harm & suffering by way of their imposition. That language of this type is not only common (e.g. possessive pronouns in reference to male/female relationships) but accepted is indicative of the depth to which sexism is institutionalised in almost every culture in across the world. We need to change the way we talk about sexism as well as actually addressing sexist practices.
Indeed. Institutions should be our first target to be enlightened on equality.
The problem is that most at the top of those are in that Old Boys Club.
Even in government.
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 8, 2014 at 11:57 am
(August 27, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Women. Religion’s longest running victims.
Here we are in civilized and enlightened societies and cultures in high tech times and we are not smart enough to recognize that the world will continue in strife as long as we men do not give women full equality as a minimum to what men should do towards the care of families.
I hope you are astute enough to see this. If you do nothing then you know not what duty to your family should be. The women in your family deserve to be first class citizens.
Men are maintaining God’s curse against women. He will rule over you.
Men. Christians Catholics and Muslims. Free your women. It’s time.
Man up.
Please.
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If you look around the world, it seems that women have it better in christian societies than in any non-christian societies. I'm trying to remember if a woman has ever held a major government office in a communist nation. A man being the head of the household doesn't free him from doing his share of the work around the house. The bible tells husbands to love their wives as they love themselves. This doesn't allow him to mistreat her in any way; and vice versa. I don't think a man is qualified to perform the nurturing role of the mother. Men and women are naturally equipped to fulfill different roles in the family and society in general. God made it clear that a wife's first priority should be the care of the family and the home, but that doesn't mean that she can't pursue a career or do anything outside the home.
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 8, 2014 at 11:58 am
Ugh, another "separate but equal" crock.
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Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 8, 2014 at 12:21 pm
My girl is better at bringing in money and reparing stuff than I am Lek. I am happy she does the 'head of the household' stuff.
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 8, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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(September 8, 2014 at 12:21 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: My girl is better at bringing in money and reparing stuff than I am Lek. I am happy she does the 'head of the household' stuff.
Actually, my wife has more dexterity than I do. When we work on projects, she generally does the "fit and finish" part and I do the "grunt" work. Sometimes I wish that she would make the major decisions. She waits until I make a decision and then she gets on me if things go wrong. It turns out to be a "lose, lose" situation for me.
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 9, 2014 at 1:27 am
(September 8, 2014 at 11:57 am)Lek Wrote: If you look around the world, it seems that women have it better in christian societies than in any non-christian societies. I'm trying to remember if a woman has ever held a major government office in a communist nation.
Why did you leap immediately to communism? In my home of Australia, numerous studies show that christianity is either not the majority religion or roughly equal, numbers-wise, with no religion, and we had a female prime minister. Sweden only has 18% of the population willing to say they believe in a god, and their cabinet has plenty of women, including a female deputy prime minister.
Which is also skipping over the very important question of why did you leap immediately to communism? What were you trying to say, there?
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 9, 2014 at 2:03 am
Quote:Your claim was that the Bible had such rules because it viewed women as 2nd class citizens; I was refuting that claim by pointing out the actual reason why the Bible has such rules.
Waldork, you have obviously confused us with people who give a flying fuck why your silly bible says anything.
It's an ancient book of folklore. It belongs in the shitter.
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 9, 2014 at 2:05 am
I've never noticed it.
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 9, 2014 at 10:24 am
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(September 8, 2014 at 11:57 am)Lek Wrote: I don't think a man is qualified to perform the nurturing role of the mother.
What a crock, as a teacher of 8 years I've seen many fathers deeply devoted to their children's emotions and well being, they knew exactly how to speak to and calm their children when they were upset. I've also seen some children prefer to go to Dad instead of Mom in some instances when they were upset or scared.
I've seen many of my own family members being AMAZING fathers...one a better and more nurturing parent than his child's mother to boot.
Character, not gender, makes a nurturing parent.
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RE: Women. Religion’s longestrunning victims.
September 9, 2014 at 10:58 am
(September 8, 2014 at 12:33 pm)Lek Wrote: Actually, my wife has more dexterity than I do. When we work on projects, she generally does the "fit and finish" part and I do the "grunt" work. Sometimes I wish that she would make the major decisions. She waits until I make a decision and then she gets on me if things go wrong. It turns out to be a "lose, lose" situation for me. Yahweh's gonna be disappointed if you don't "man up" and put her in her place, dude.
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