Has Philosophy over stepped it's boundaries?

[ComradeMeow]

Being a massive fan of philosophy I have to say that a vast amount of philosophy is utter garbage.
A massive portion of philosophy keeps arguing about issues that are only relevant with science. Philosophy is being used a tool which rivals science still in this day of age.

I strongly abhor this of course since philosophy does not provide evidence for a vast amount of things produced from it. This is why psychology split off from philosophy and science split off from epistemology. Astronomy and even physics were also at one point apart of philosophy as well.

I find many useful things that come from philosophy such as ethics, jurisprudence and politics. None of these things though have the impact that science has in my opinion and science itself is based upon a philosophical concept.

For some reason(I am only asserting a rough opinion) I find that philosophy must be cut down and stay within areas that are only relevant to it.

What are your opinions on philosophy and it's usage?

[BlackMason]

What are the relevant areas of philosophy?

[Dolorian]

What is the massive portion of philosophy that you think keeps arguing about issues that are only relevant with science?

[Diablo]

I don't indulge in philosophy but I have read various discussions, mostly on other forums. The problems I have is the extent to which it descends into the precise meaning of individual words, which after all are not precise things at all. That, and the tedious line-by-line analysis, going on for page after page, which sends me to sleep. There is s tendancy to try and win arguments not by logic, but by outlasting the other guy: people do not have unlimited time.

It seems to me that it was useful before people had maths, so words had to suffice, but now it seems fairly pointless.

[BlackMason]

Could it be that the people you've observed have a warped idea of what philosophy is?

[Diablo]

Could it be that the people you've observed have a warped idea of what philosophy is?

Quite possibly. I did say that I've observed it on forums......

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I find it telling that in 5000+ years of trying, philosophy has not solved one problem of human existence.

Boru

[BlackMason]

What do you mean exactly, Brian.

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Philosophy is observing reality and questioning epistemology in the attempt to distill truth. One can't categorically say "this was solved by philosophy". Instead it can be said many problems have been solved by principles of philosophy. At it's core science is philosophy.

[Thumpalumpacus]

"Philosophy ... it's the top of a cereal-box ... "

[bennyboy]

For some reason(I am only asserting a rough opinion) I find that philosophy must be cut down and stay within areas that are only relevant to it.

What are your opinions on philosophy and it's usage?

In my view, you have it almost exactly wrong. Philosophy is a huge field, and scientific thinking is a subset based on certain core assumptions as well as goals.

I think what you really mean to say is, "Bullshit half-baked woo shouldn't be injected into the more rigorous field of science." With this, most would agree.

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I find it telling that in 5000+ years of trying, philosophy has not solved one problem of human existence.

Boru

lolwut?

I'd ask you to show even a single problem that has been solved without philosophy (except maybe those solved by pure chance).