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Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
#11
RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
Please say more. I don't at all see where you're headed. As a piece of writing, I would think the success of the story would depend entirely on your making us care about the character. The twisted plot is clever enough.
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#12
RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
(August 31, 2014 at 10:42 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah I agree, I would not consider the rapist in any way good in this story. I'm wondering if there's anyone who feels that he is good, or justified.

There is a point to this, I'm sure some people can already see where it's going. Or maybe I wasn't as transparent as I thought Tongue

Or maybe I should just shut up. Anyhow, I like to encourage thought.

If you're trying to write a book or short story, then you need to introduce the rapist first as a regular guy.
You want people to think he's good or justified. They need to see him as a real person a good happy person. Then they need to see something awful and traumatic happen to him. Something that breaks their heart. Finally they need to see that this MPD is a direct result of said tragedy.
I doubt anyone will call him justified still but they will have more compassion and understanding for him. I'm not really sure how to fit a cult in there, or even if this is what you're going for. I tend to need people to just tell me what they're talking about or else I don't know.
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RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
Ah OK, wow it looks like I just confused everyone, I'm sorry. Maybe this was a bad idea Tongue

It's meant to be an analogy with religion, but I wanted it to be enough removed for theists to given an opinion on this and then apply it to religion. Maybe I should just forgot this, if I explain it any further it would defeat the point of it. But I was looking for theists to reply really, but didn't put it in the religious section in case they found it offensive or something. Maybe that was stupid. I'm not at my best today! I was also interested in what atheists thought of my analogy though.

But thanks for your replies, sorry I didn't mean to mess you around Smile Hey it could be a good short story though...

I'm happy about the extra interpretations I got! I have always been looking to write a story but never thought I could get a good enough idea. Maybe trying to spin the rapist as a good guy could be the challenge of the book.

You know how something seemed like a good idea at the time... If this just falls flat I'll explain what I was talking about.
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RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
(August 31, 2014 at 11:22 am)robvalue Wrote: Ah OK, wow it looks like I just confused everyone, I'm sorry. Maybe this was a bad idea Tongue

It's meant to be an analogy with religion, but I wanted it to be enough removed for theists to given an opinion on this and then apply it to religion. Maybe I should just forgot this, if I explain it any further it would defeat the point of it. But I was looking for theists to reply really, but didn't put it in the religious section in case they found it offensive or something.

But thanks for your replies, sorry I didn't mean to mess you around Smile Hey it could be a good short story though...

I twigged the religion analogy from the Y,J,G stuff (Yahweh, Jehovah, God I assume) but I don't get the 20 year cycle thing.
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RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
Well since you're just going to forget it anyways, do you mind explaining the link between this and religion? I think I'm missing it.
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#16
RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
Well I guess I'm dense. I see it now, though. Tongue
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#17
RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
Sure, I will get to the full explanation, a bit later when my brain is working well enough to be sufficiently coherent about it. But Tobie was correct about my hint.

I could write a book about how bad I am at making analogies I guess.
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#18
RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
Dude, on DA, Josef Mengele has fangirls. Let me repeat that, the good doctor of Auschwitz, the man Slayer called "The Angel of Death," a man who liked to create Siamese Twins in his spare time, and personally killed 1500 people, has FANGIRLS on DEVIANTART. That a guy like that rapist has a following is really not that shocking.
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RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
The reality is always more shocking than the analogy, perhaps because it's real.
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RE: Would a story like this shock anyone I wonder?
Ok prepare to be disappointed Tongue

The reason I wrote this was as an experiment, I thought I'd try to put the story of the christian god into human form, and have him apprehended to answer for his actions.

20 years ago, a man blindfolded a woman and raped her.

God decides he wants a son, so he decides to impregnate a woman without consent. Mary didn't even see it happening. I use 20 years as a human equivalent to about 2000 years of biblical history.

His identity was never discovered, and the child resulting from that rape never knew her father.

By child, I refer to the resulting race of people. God is the direct father of the actual child in the human story, but expanding it to fit with gods image, he is the "father" to all humans. He has since failed to reveal himself in any meaningful way, so his atheist children did not know him.

Yesterday a man abducted the child and tortured her in his basement. When finally apprehended, the man claimed to be the rapist in question.

God abducts the souls of his children which he deems unworthy. He tortures them in hell. Since god got apprehended here, he has to explain. He starts his "defence" by saying he created the child in the first place.

He was angry because the child didn't know his identity. He said he had sent several letters to the child.

God punishes his children because they don't believe he is real. That is enough for him to resort to torture. He claims evidence was made clear for his existence.

The child had no idea what the letters were supposed to mean, as they made little sense. The rapist claimed they contained crytpic clues which would have led the child to his hiding place.

The children had read the letters from god (the Bible) and the sceptically minded among them could make no real sense of it and didn't take it seriously. But apparently the letters were enough for you to "find god". I say hiding place, because after the initial rush of activity of god 2000 years ago, he has been clearly absent.

The rapist already has a cult following of other psycopaths who are praising his actions.

Instead of calling this psychopath the monster that he is, he is worshipped and say that he is right and just to torture his children for not interpreting correctly his obscure book.

This just in:

The rapist seemingly has multiple personality disorder, giving his first initial sometimes as "J" and sometimes as "G", and occasionally "Y". This has strengthened his cult following.

God has many names and forms. He is Jehovah, God, Yahweh... even Jesus. He claims to be both a god and a human at the same time, not even counting the holy ghost. This contradiction is somehow heralded as a good thing.

An elderly policeman was alarmed at the striking similarities between this series events and ones that took place 40 years ago. He said that the perpetrator was apprehended but escaped, and most of the records about this case mysteriously disappeared.

The events here of this remarkable god are far from original, they borrowed (stole) elements from much older religions. In particular the virgin birth has appeared all over the place.

Well there's the white van outside, so I guess I'm off. I hope you enjoyed my fevered rantings Smile
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