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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 5:41 am
The book I linked above Brian.
The bible sure isn't a science book. We're in agreement. But that makes me think that you haven't read/ understand a word I've been saying.
Those examples of moral source are actually entertainment which lazily borrow from serious sources. I'd be worried about you if you claim those to be your only moral source.
If you wish to use child like morality then I hope the best for you.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 6:07 am
(September 12, 2014 at 5:41 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The book I linked above Brian.
The bible sure isn't a science book. We're in agreement. But that makes me think that you haven't read/ understand a word I've been saying.
Those examples of moral source are actually entertainment which lazily borrow from serious sources. I'd be worried about you if you claim those to be your only moral source.
If you wish to use child like morality then I hope the best for you.
DUDE, my "morality" is in me, not any fucking book, nor does it make me a robot. It is as simple as don't physically harm someone outside of self defense. You don't need a comic book or work of fiction to figure out what human empathy is or what compassion is. It has always been part of our evolution.
Humans can come up with really pretty works of fiction and religion certainly is the most creative work of fiction. The problem with religion is that unlike fiction it pretends to be the patent holder and inventor of human morality.
EVOLUTION explains why humans do good or bad, not religion. That does not mean art and fiction should not have a place. It just means I do not assign good or bad to ancient myth or superstition.
If you rightfully accept others can find morality outside the god or religion you subscribe to then YOU need to consider like they do, that it is YOU, not your label or a fictional god that is the reason you seek empathy and compassion.
Ancient stories of gods do not explain shit except for the ignorant beliefs of the people of that time, just like humans widely and stupidly thought the earth was flat.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 6:41 am
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That's compatible with Christian theology Brian (inbuilt morality).
Religion strives for truth, yes. If something can be stated that doesn't change with fashion, then that statement is said to be true. I don't know why you'd have a problem with that.
God explains purpose. That's the aim of all religions AFAIK.
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September 12, 2014 at 7:01 am
(September 3, 2014 at 9:55 am)Brian37 Wrote: Ok, when I get "angry" at theists, it is not the "kill kill kill" type of anger or hate people think. It is more like having a friend(your fellow human) make a stinky fart(unaware of how bad their logic is). I do not hate you because you believe, I hate the conclusions you came to because your use of logic is flawed.
When anyone first comes to an atheist website please think before you post. If you think you have a earth shattering argument not made by someone prior, you are wrong. If you think you are the only religion who makes that argument you are wrong. If you think science props up your religion you are wrong.
I have been at this for 13 years every single day, and have had the same arguments made by Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.
Instead of getting pissed off at someone objecting to your claims, you need to consider that YOU are wrong. There is nothing wrong with admitting you got it wrong. It is how our species learns and grows. If our species never questioned social norms our species never would have left the caves.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 8:00 am
(September 12, 2014 at 5:07 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Here's some info for you: the bible makes no claims about origins.
Then what is the whole: god created the earth in 7 days thing? Is that somehow not an origin story?
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 8:01 am
No Wolfie. Shocker huh.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 8:02 am
How is it not?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 8:30 am
Read the book Wolfie.
Read with the language and cultural influences of the time genesis actually sets out Gods purpose in relation to everything. It ends with him at the controls driving the ship. Everything is described by its function, and not its material inception. This is thoroughly backed up, unlike any other view on the subject, including young earth creationism and intelligent design. It considers the atheist viewpoint too.
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 8:40 am
It says god literally created the earth and everything on it, that is an origin story.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Yes I pick on all religions.
September 12, 2014 at 8:43 am
Only if you're an illiterate nork Wolfie
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