Posts: 25314
Threads: 239
Joined: August 26, 2010
Reputation:
156
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 21, 2014 at 6:39 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2014 at 6:42 pm by Cyberman.)
Yeah, The Last Answer is a classic and should be required reading for every aspiring writer. Read it in conjunction with The Last Question if you really want your mind blown.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Posts: 3837
Threads: 197
Joined: August 28, 2013
Reputation:
38
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 21, 2014 at 6:40 pm
Here is some thing I do not understand, if god has a personal relationship with people then how come they can't answer simple questions about him, like what food does he like or when he is here in the flesh what does he do to kick back. In would not expect this to be in the bible but why wouldn't he tell you if you ask?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Posts: 67288
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 21, 2014 at 6:45 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2014 at 6:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
-because none of them actually -mean it- when they say that? There simply aren't that many crazies running around unattended. They aren't nuts, they're just assholes. No passes will be given from this corner.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 2174
Threads: 89
Joined: August 26, 2012
Reputation:
38
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 21, 2014 at 7:33 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2014 at 7:33 pm by Brakeman.)
(September 20, 2014 at 8:20 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 11:35 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: Maybe his invisible magic phone to God has run out of minutes? "If I claimed I had a personal relationship with Michelle Obama" - get out, just claim it and we would be totally impressed.
Is "that" what jesus told you to say??
Impressive, jesus!
Find the cure for Fundementia!
Posts: 3188
Threads: 8
Joined: December 9, 2011
Reputation:
31
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 21, 2014 at 10:36 pm
(September 21, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Madness20 Wrote: I believe that god hiding would have alot to do with our "free will" or possibly incapacity to show himself more evidently, also, would it really be a positive thing to god to show himself?
Why would a god reveal itself? If we had religious wars over imaginary gods, imagine how it'd be with certainty of him. xD
Gods of all sorts of religion didn't seem to have much of a problem showing themselves in their religious scriptures. Also in those scriptures, examples of people not believing despite them showing themselves - so the free-will argument doesn't really fly.
This is actually a reason why I don't believe in any gods. If there is any consciousness independent from and superior to the material reality - one that can alter the material reality - then you can expect natural law to be subverted and broken all the time. Which is precisely what happens in those religious texts - world-wide floods, lightnings from cloudless skies, people rising from dead, booming voices with no source, bodies of water parting automatically, fireballs shooting down from the sky - that is the sort of world we can expect to live in if any gods are real. I think that is one thing those texts did get right. But since we don't live in such a world and natural laws do function reliably, I have a good reason to believe that those gods are not just hiding but non-existent.
As for religious wars - people fight those wars because their beliefs differ. Their beliefs differ because their imaginations differ. If a god were to show himself, then all of them would believe the same thing and there would be no more need for war.
Posts: 23918
Threads: 300
Joined: June 25, 2011
Reputation:
151
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 22, 2014 at 1:41 am
To the OP: He heard I was looking for him?
Posts: 25314
Threads: 239
Joined: August 26, 2010
Reputation:
156
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 22, 2014 at 1:46 am
As long as I get a piece of 'him' as well, I'll help you track the bastard down.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Posts: 6843
Threads: 0
Joined: February 22, 2014
Reputation:
15
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 22, 2014 at 2:27 am
(September 21, 2014 at 6:40 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Here is some thing I do not understand, if god has a personal relationship with people then how come they can't answer simple questions about him, like what food does he like or when he is here in the flesh what does he do to kick back. In would not expect this to be in the bible but why wouldn't he tell you if you ask?
God likes wine and fat.
Posts: 957
Threads: 1
Joined: October 10, 2013
Reputation:
2
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 28, 2014 at 2:56 am
(September 20, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (September 7, 2014 at 9:46 pm)professor Wrote: The answer to the "Hiding" question is the same as the answer to the "Knocking" post.
Moses knew God face to face, and even he blew it when he had to step out in faith, and speak to the Rock ( he blew it by smacking the rock ( a type of Christ) like he did before, when he was supposed to speak to it).
It is nearly like a game- and it is ALWAYS our move.
The blinders come off (or should I say- the revelation increases) as we play the game.
I hate to use the word- "Game" but another parallel escapes me.
Yes, He does "Hide" and we, like little kids playing "Hide and Seek" are supposed to seek.
Maybe that is why "Child- likeness" is commended.
Two things:
First why hide?
Second, don't the children playing hide and seek know there is an it? That's rather different than seeking the great pumpkin don't you think? not hiding. can't establish proof thru the 5 senses. if it's truly not evident to someone, it's spiritual blindness. this would make sense since the atheists believe in the one dimension of physical.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
Posts: 3188
Threads: 8
Joined: December 9, 2011
Reputation:
31
RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 28, 2014 at 3:31 am
(September 28, 2014 at 2:56 am)snowtracks Wrote: not hiding. can't establish proof thru the 5 senses. if it's truly not evident to someone, it's spiritual blindness. this would make sense since the atheists believe in the one dimension of physical.
Really? Your omnipotent god can't establish proof through five senses? Some omnipotence.
What happened to the stuff he did do according to the bible - fire from the sky, pillar of fire, booming voices from the sky and miracles on every corner?
|