US Postal Service discriminates against Atheists.

[Gawdzilla]

This doesn't mean the atheist team is clean either.

Who is claiming they are, please?

[Napoléon]

I saw this a while ago. I'm torn about it. On one hand, it would honestly bug me if a company sealed up its packages with "Christian!" tape. On the other hand, why would this surprise anyone? It's not like the USPS is run by machines or something. It is run by Americans, with very little supervision once the packages leave the depots. Americans do not trust or like atheists. To expect anything different is naive. This company knew this, and did this little experiment as a publicity ploy. Send 178 packages to the United States with "Atheist" all over it. Surprise! 10% of the atheist packages went missing! Even more showed up late!!! Oh my!!!!

Don't put religiously/politically charging messages all over a package that is being handled by someone else. We don't live in a utopia. If there were Jesus stamps all over the packages, there would be some douchebag atheist who trashed a package or two as well.

You say it's not a surprise and you're right. Is it a publicity ploy? Maybe. But is it also absolutely fucking outrageous that this shit still happens in 2014? Yes it is! And why shouldn't it be brought to people's attention? No, we don't live in utopia, but we do live in a world we people in professional environments are supposed to act professionally. Just because we suspect something might happen, doesn't mean we should be okay with it. I suspect McDonalds workers might sometimes spit in people's food. Let's do a test of 100 burgers and see how many have traces of saliva on the food. Oh look! 10% of burgers had someone's spit on it! Oh my!!!! Surprise!!!

That kind of attitude isn't really good IMO. It's just accepting that bad shit happens and that people should be fine with it because it's not a surprise.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Someone needs to do this with the tape reading "Muslim" ... give the bomb squads some practice.

[SteelCurtain]

I saw this a while ago. I'm torn about it. On one hand, it would honestly bug me if a company sealed up its packages with "Christian!" tape. On the other hand, why would this surprise anyone? It's not like the USPS is run by machines or something. It is run by Americans, with very little supervision once the packages leave the depots. Americans do not trust or like atheists. To expect anything different is naive. This company knew this, and did this little experiment as a publicity ploy. Send 178 packages to the United States with "Atheist" all over it. Surprise! 10% of the atheist packages went missing! Even more showed up late!!! Oh my!!!!

Don't put religiously/politically charging messages all over a package that is being handled by someone else. We don't live in a utopia. If there were Jesus stamps all over the packages, there would be some douchebag atheist who trashed a package or two as well.

You say it's not a surprise and you're right. Is it a publicity ploy? Maybe. But is it also absolutely fucking outrageous that this shit still happens in 2014? Yes it is! And why shouldn't it be brought to people's attention? No, we don't live in utopia, but we do live in a world we people in professional environments are supposed to act professionally. Just because we suspect something might happen, doesn't mean we should be okay with it. I suspect McDonalds workers might sometimes spit in people's food. Let's do a test of 100 burgers and see how many have traces of saliva on the food. Oh look! 10% of burgers had someone's spit on it! Oh my!!!! Surprise!!!

That kind of attitude isn't really good IMO. It's just accepting that bad shit happens and that people should be fine with it because it's not a surprise.

Nowhere did I say people should be fine with it. It is absolutely outrageous behavior.

My point was that we already know that a lot of people trust atheists less than convicted rapists. So why be surprised when this happens? And why do it in the first place? So we can feel persecuted when the very thing we knew was going to happen, happens?

Your analogy doesn't really work. Just testing random burgers and finding human DNA is one thing, but if you tested 100 burgers in a second test and included a person saying something like "please stop wasting your one chance at life praying to your imaginary god" at the drive through and found a higher incidence of spit, why would you be surprised? It's not okay either way, but you have to know that these things are incendiary, even if they shouldn't be.

So if you don't want your package to get tampered with, don't make it incendiary. Don't put religiously/politically charged messaging on the outside, because some people are stupid, and will do stupid things.

[JesusHChrist]

No packages with the Scientology tape were received at all . . .

Fuckin' Xenu at work....

[Losty]

This doesn't mean the atheist team is clean either.

There's a team? I want to play too. Why didn't anyone tell me we have a team?

[Tonus]

This doesn't mean the atheist team is clean either.

There's a team? I want to play too. Why didn't anyone tell me we have a team?

Psst, Losty... we have a team.

And as Aoi points out... we're dirty.

[KUSA]

I bet if it had terrorist tape it would show up promptly all the time.

[Napoléon]

Nowhere did I say people should be fine with it. It is absolutely outrageous behavior.

My point was that we already know that a lot of people trust atheists less than convicted rapists. So why be surprised when this happens? And why do it in the first place? So we can feel persecuted when the very thing we knew was going to happen, happens?

You're contradicting yourself. You say "Nowhere did I say people should be fine with it.", but your later paragraph just goes against that completely.

Replace atheists with black people. Or Jewish people. I'm sure you wouldn't be using the line "so we can feel persecuted when the very thing we knew was going to happen, happens?" then.

Why do it in the first place? Because they have a right to. They also have a right to feel persecuted and a right to tell people about it. If it was happening to Jewish people, or Black people, or Chinese people, I bet you'd have a completely different attitude.

It's not okay either way

Exactly. It's not okay. So what's your point. What are you suggesting? That people don't have the right to use the packaging they want? Even when it's something that shouldn't be incendiary? That's not okay either.

So if you don't want your package to get tampered with, don't make it incendiary. Don't put religiously/politically charged messaging on the outside, because some people are stupid, and will do stupid things.

Again, this is not okay. It shouldn't matter. People should do their damn jobs properly. If it was a racial equality message on the packaging and a bunch of racists ruined the deliveries people would be far more outraged right? Right. You wouldn't just blow it off and say "well, surprise surprise, you don't have a right to complain, you should of known racists were part of this organisation that delivers the mail".

C'mon dude, it's fucking bullshit. Just because stupid people do stupid things, and just because you can predict the outcome, doesn't make the outcome any less outrageous. Nor does it invalidate your complaints if said outcome happens.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Thanks to advances in sorting technology, routing software, and delivery systems, most post offices are able to destroy or misdirect twice as many parcels in half the time.

And some feckwits claim there's no such thing as progress.

Boru