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Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
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RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 5:28 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So what about when I feel there is no God? Is that me wanting there to be no god? Because certainly I don't know there is no God when I feel that way.

Sure sounds like it.

(October 5, 2014 at 5:28 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So everything you claim to be true, is on absolute knowledge?

Absolute, no. Knowledge, yes.
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#22
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 5:34 pm)genkaus Wrote: Sure sounds like it.

I never wanted for a second for God to not exist. Islam sometimes I want it to be true but most of the time I want it to be not true.

You guys are arrogant. Acting like you know what it's inside of me while you have no way of knowing.

How do you know this about me? You have no way of knowing.

You're so arrogant. But I guess this another thing you knew, it was knowledge, right, not feeling, because everything you claim is knowledge, none of it on feeling.

Genkaus you sound really arrogant.
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#23
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 5:37 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I never wanted for a second for God to not exist. Islam sometimes I want it to be true but most of the time I want it to be not true.

You guys are arrogant. Acting like you know what it's inside of me while you have no way of knowing.

How do you know this about me? You have no way of knowing.

You're so arrogant. But I guess this another thing you knew, it was knowledge, right, not feeling, because everything you claim is knowledge, none of it on feeling.

Genkaus you sound really arrogant.

I am really arrogant - what of it?

Here I was just making conclusions based on what you said and in this post you verified my conclusions:

"Islam sometimes I want it to be true but most of the time I want it to be not true."

That is what was said about you - you feel Islam is true because you want it to be true. In all your claims of my arrogance, you never once argued if I was wrong.
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#24
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 5:46 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(October 5, 2014 at 5:37 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I never wanted for a second for God to not exist. Islam sometimes I want it to be true but most of the time I want it to be not true.

You guys are arrogant. Acting like you know what it's inside of me while you have no way of knowing.

How do you know this about me? You have no way of knowing.

You're so arrogant. But I guess this another thing you knew, it was knowledge, right, not feeling, because everything you claim is knowledge, none of it on feeling.

Genkaus you sound really arrogant.

I am really arrogant - what of it?

Here I was just making conclusions based on what you said and in this post you verified my conclusions:

"Islam sometimes I want it to be true but most of the time I want it to be not true."

That is what was said about you - you feel Islam is true because you want it to be true. In all your claims of my arrogance, you never once argued if I was wrong.

Most of the time I don't want Islam to be true. Sometimes I do. So why do I feel it's true even when most of the time I don't want it to be true?

I am not very stable like most people. I go off and on beliefs very fast. Even a few times a day I change what I lean towards.

But I know I been pretty happy about being without religion for the past 4 years. I don't want Islam to be true most of the time. Sometimes I do miss Islam, but that's rarely the case.

You also claimed I wish God doesn't exist when I feel he doesn't. This is another claim you made.

I know as far as this goes, not even for a second have I ever wanted God to not exist.
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#25
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 4:41 pm)KUSA Wrote: I think being a Muslim is just a good excuse to fuck goats.

Indeed, and being catholic is just a good excuse for fucking choir boys, while being Protestant is just a good excuse for visualizing sucking cock.
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#26
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 5:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Most of the time I don't want Islam to be true. Sometimes I do. So why do I feel it's true even when most of the time I don't want it to be true?

I am not very stable like most people. I go off and on beliefs very fast. Even a few times a day I change what I lean towards.

But I know I been pretty happy about being without religion for the past 4 years. I don't want Islam to be true most of the time. Sometimes I do miss Islam, but that's rarely the case.

You also claimed I wish God doesn't exist when I feel he doesn't. This is another claim you made.

I know as far as this goes, not even for a second have I ever wanted God to not exist.

The only actual claim I made is what you feel to be true seems to be based on what you want to be true. My argument to you is to remove the feelings and wants from your beliefs and rely on knowledge. You'll find your beliefs would stabilize pretty quickly.
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#27
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 5:58 pm)genkaus Wrote: The only actual claim I made is what you feel to be true seems to be based on what you want to be true.

This again a claim that has no evidence and has been proven wrong to me beyond doubt. I can give two examples.

I would get time to time delusional about black magic being done on me by sorcerers, even though I didn't want to believe in that, and I would feel possessed by jinns.

I thought at one point my parents and my family were sorcerers and secret freemasons who took part in dark arts. I had no rational reason, but it had nothing to do with me wanting to believe in it.

So why you taking this as a universal fact about me? That everything I lean towards believing it is because I want it to be true.

Is the only reason why I ever thought Islam was false was because I didn't want it to be true?
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#28
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
(October 5, 2014 at 6:04 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: This again a claim that has no evidence and has been proven wrong to me beyond doubt. I can give two examples.

I would get time to time delusional about black magic being done on me by sorcerers, even though I didn't want to believe in that, and I would feel possessed by jinns.

I thought at one point my parents and my family were sorcerers and secret freemasons who took part in dark arts. I had no rational reason, but it had nothing to do with me wanting to believe in it.

So why you taking this as a universal fact about me? That everything I lean towards believing it is because I want it to be true.

Is the only reason why I ever thought Islam was false was because I didn't want it to be true?

Fine, you have convinced me. So, its not a universal fact about your, just limited to your feeling Islam is true.
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#29
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
I haven't thought too much about my want of religion to be true. I can tell you my life has been better ever since I left Islam. But I think it might be because I had a false understanding of Islam. I'm not too sure. I don't really want to accept what seem to me to be barbaric laws like cutting fingers off a thief or lashing out on a fornicators/adulterers.
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#30
RE: Leaning towards Islam being true these days.
I think that we need another thread where you can't make up your mind about what you believe in.
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