Horrible things in the bible

[Minimalist]

I'm still waiting for "Hey, bishop...get your dick out of that kid's asshole."

[Chad32]

I guess you don't have to pay fifty silver and marry your victim if it's a boy you're raping. And the verse against homosexuality says if a man lies with another MAN as he lies with a woman, it's an abomination. How do you like that little work around?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Okay so I'm a christian, but since these are your forums it would be fair to share what you hate about the bible (the unsettling parts) and christians try to argue them. (A practice debate?)

Off the top of my head

1- destruction of Canaanites and everyone else. Considering that this is not a myth; I believe (I'm not saying it's right) that god ordered their killing so that his plan could come about (jesus and all)
But why kill the poor Canaanites? (I'm using a collective term)
You probably never heard of child sacrifice to Molech. With their idolatry, they were killing the children and doing other things. Read in context, that is one reason idolatry was bad. The world back then was barbaric guys. When the world's barbaric, god adheres to it; and since during Jesus' s time the world was relatively more peaceful than that, I guess god finally thought that it is time for humanity to be shown what living holy is about (because they were capable of it). Who knows, maybe if we returned to being holy creatures like Adam and Eve; we won't even need the ten commandments.

2- The bears and 42 mauled.
First of all youth at that time meant adolescents after 16. And second, we don't know what calling someone bald back then. There were probably hundreds of people calling him bald and since we don't know how insulting it was for someone to be called bald in those days, I'd like to present a modern day scenario
If you call an African American coon, or nigger, you might get beaten up pretty bad. Same with calling gay people the f word ( I know you're going to point this out, but most catholics and the pope don't discriminate)
Whatever, but imagine if 42 (at least) people called a gay person the f word. Wouldn't he want them all to get punished? And we're talking about a prophet here! In 5000 years they'll be saying- wow that black man beat him up just because he called him a coon? That's rough!
And the bears didn't necessarily kill and eat them. Maul is sort of like a punch. You really think 2 bears waited to see if someones dead to go onto the next one.

3- judges 19 rape. This rape was never condoned by god, neither was the episode with Lots daughters. And who said the Israelites weren't punished? There was a civil war after that!

4- slavery. Surely you can't compare that slavery to American slavery. It was customary to have slaves then (I prefer calling them servants) nothing wrong with that. Rich people Still have servants. Atleast god made rules so that they'd be treated properly. He could've let the hebrews do whatever they wished with them, but they didn't.

All I can think of. At the moment

I'll take "Killing every human who ever existed for the sins of Adam and Eve" for a true daily double, Alex. What's your answer?

Also, you really, really need to polish your answers (and by "polish", I mean rethink them so that they actually make sense.) Example: do you really think that it's better for God's hit-squad of bears to maul 42 16-year-olds than 42 ten-year-olds? Or: why does a perfectly good god adhere to the barbarism of a world he created?

Sound your foghorn: there's a cargo ship driving through one of these holes.

[Jenny A]

Okay so I'm a christian, but since these are your forums it would be fair to share what you hate about the bible (the unsettling parts) and christians try to argue them. (A practice debate?)

Oh my, we could begin at the beginning, but it's going to go on a while.

1) We could start by God's choosing to punish all of mankind because one woman and her husband ate a piece of fruit and gained "the knowledge of good and evil."

2) God favors Abel over Cain for dubious reasons and gives Cain a motive for the first murder.

3) God destroys Babel and inhibits the communications of man for fear they might build a tall building.

4) God destroys all humans except Noah, his wife, and their sons, and daughters-in-law and all animals except for a pair of each wild kind, and more of each domestic kind. His excuse is he thinks they are wicked although no example of wickedness is given and he doesn't give them any law until much later.

And that's just the beginning of Genesis.

[psychoslice]

And today there are people who have excuse's for what Hitler did, I use to be one.

[Exian]

I'm always surprised at the ability of a creationist to separate reality from the things they read in the bible. I guess, because it was so long ago, physics were different? Magic existed?

The example this time around is a bear punching a kid! It's not mauling per se, just little soft BEAR PUNCHES! Suddenly, everything we know about the physical power of huge wild animals goes out the window. The next question to cross my mind is--If the event actually did happen, why the fuck would you ascribe it to your god? I would have went with "Holy shit! That's on Osiris."

The next thing to hit me is-- Why am I always surprised? Gotta keep my guard up.

[Jenny A]

I should make this clear, because Christians often seem to miss the point, but while I find much of what the OT god does despicable, and I'm only marginally more pleased with the behavior of the NT god, that's not why I don't believe in him. I don't believe in him, because there is no evidence for him and nothing to make him more or less unlikely than all of the other god options.

[Minimalist]

Uh, Jen. They insist that the OT god and the NT god are the same god.

This is one of their major problems but it is the corner they have painted themselves into.

[Cyberman]

That's a very important point. The old "you just hate God" canard. As nonsensical as the god and the book in which it lives.

[Cyberman]

I'm still waiting for "Hey, bishop...get your dick out of that kid's asshole."

Oh, I'm sure that happens. Followed by "It's my turn!"