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Guardian angels are real, says Pope
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RE: Guardian angels are real, says Pope
I wish mine would get a goddamned license ... I could use a designated driver sometimes.

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(October 7, 2014 at 5:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Pope is a credulous fool, says Cthulhu.

In other news: water is wet.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Guardian angels are real, says Pope
Guardian angel was slacking in Arizona recently . .
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It's weird that some people find the idea of 24/7 surveillance comforting.
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RE: Guardian angels are real, says Pope
True. Even in Blighty we don't have CCTV everywhere. We do get some escape.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(October 7, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: It's weird that some people find the idea of 24/7 surveillance comforting.

And think of the management overhead involved. Are these angels multi-tasking between "clients"? Or is it a one-to-one relationship? If one-to-one, there are billions of angels running around? And as our population increases, the angel population increases as well? From where? Poofed into existence? Is there a training program?

Assuming they are intelligent beings (advising against yet another Blue Mutha at the bar, smarter than us apparently, but do we listen? NO!) don't they get incredibly bored? Do they get time off? Family? Hang out with the angel wife and angel kids?

Like most theistic woo nuttery, it doesn't seem much thought has been put into either character development or plot. Steven King these woo-mongers are not.
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RE: Guardian angels are real, says Pope
Quote:“According to church tradition we all have an angel with us, who protects us and helps us understand things,”
"...unless you're a young boy being approached by a pedophile priest, in which case you're on your own, you sweet little thing."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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(October 7, 2014 at 4:35 pm)Stimbo Wrote: And they help us make the best decisions.

Quote: “The doctrine on angels is not fantasist. No, it’s reality,” the pope said during his daily mass in the small chapel in his residence at the Vatican.

“According to church tradition we all have an angel with us, who protects us and helps us understand things,” he said in a message to mark the Feast of the Guardian Angels, celebrated by Catholics on 2 October.

[. . .]

Francis asked: “How often have we heard ‘I should do this, I should not do this, that’s not right, be careful ...’. So often! It is the voice of our travelling companion.” The pope advised sceptics to ask themselves: “How is my relationship with my guardian angel? Do I listen to him? Do I say good morning to him? Do I ask him to watch over me when I sleep?

This of course throws up some important questions, such as why does my angel have to be male instead of some sexy blonde piece, or what advice do they give to the priests about which choirboy to fuck.

(Link, although this being the Grauniad, Fanny was probably talking about gardening angles.)

Go home, Francis, you're drunk.

It's sad.. This guy is the figure head of a whole religion supposedly based on the bible, yet he looks to tradition rather than the bible to label the experience he is describing.

The pope labels these the works of a guardian angel. Angels are just messengers. They bring a message from their master. What the pope is describing according to the bible is the Holy Spirit, and it appears he doesn't even know any better. It is the fruit, and gifts of the Holy Spirit that he is unknowingly describing.

The problem with looking for and worshiping Angels, is that God is not the only one who commands legions of them. Is it beyond the master of lies to send an angel to misrepresent himself to any of us?
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Interesting. The pope says one thing about angels; a random theist on the Internet says another. Both have exactly the same amount of evidence. For all the difference it will make, we might just as well be discussing the mating habits of the yeti.

First catch your yeti - or in this case, angel. Then we can cook it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Guardian angels are real, says Pope
(October 7, 2014 at 9:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Interesting. The pope says one thing about angels; a random theist on the Internet says another. Both have exactly the same amount of evidence. For all the difference it will make, we might just as well be discussing the mating habits of the yeti.

First catch your yeti - or in this case, angel. Then we can cook it.

Like always you are missing the bigger picture for the quick retort.

The bigger picture being the pope is supposedly the leader among leaders of christianity. Shouldn't the leader among leaders know the rule book backwards and forwards whether or not you specifically want to play this game?

It would be like me getting elected the international president of the dr.who fan club, and then decide to start referring to the good doctor as doc wuuuut. Some sharp tonged Trekkie may say, "Dr. Who's not real what does it matter what you call him, it's all the same in the end.." For the Trekkie, and other Trekkies like him he maybe right, but in the realm where the Good Dr. Is master of space and time, referring to the Good dr. As doc wuut, only shows that I as the president of the dr.who fan club doesnt know the cannon of dr. Who as I should.
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