Marine banned from daughter’s school over Islam homework

[Ksa]

It is not enough to look into the Qur'an to declare Islam a peaceful religion. You have to evaluate if weather or not the people practicing Islam are peaceful.

You can well say that Helen was a beautiful and peaceful person in the Troy context, but she caused everyone around her to be unpeaceful and she caused a major war also. So when it comes to peace in the world you don't want to find a peaceful book, you want to find the source of unrest and destroy it! That does not apply to Helen.

And the truth is that the source of unrest occurs around Islamic countries. It may be a coincidence of course, maybe the unrest is political and they use Islam to propagate it, but we can't be sure.

[Brian37]

It is not enough to look into the Qur'an to declare Islam a peaceful religion. You have to evaluate if weather or not the people practicing Islam are peaceful.

You can well say that Helen was a beautiful and peaceful person in the Troy context, but she caused everyone around her to be unpeaceful and she caused a major war also. So when it comes to peace in the world you don't want to find a peaceful book, you want to find the source of unrest and destroy it! That does not apply to Helen.

And the truth is that the source of unrest occurs around Islamic countries. It may be a coincidence of course, maybe the unrest is political and they use Islam to propagate it, but we can't be sure.

Nope. "It's political not religious"is a dodge. You just admitted the religion is used by politics which means it takes people to believe in that religion in order to be lead by the nose by politics.

ALL holy books are pointed at by people who read it to claim compassion, and those same books are used by others to justify cruelty to others. The same books the same exact words with different conclusions.

Just like a gun can be used to protect or cause harm it is still a gun. The problem with holy books is that they are not just guns, but convoluted guns that humans fight over how to use them.

[mralstoner]

Here's a similar story, from a Massachusetts school. The bias is so thick that Mohammed sounds like an angel.

Massachusetts Father Mad Just Because Public School Teaches ‘There Is No God But Allah’
http://news.yahoo.com/massachusetts-fath...17637.html

... students in the oceanfront Boston suburb of Revere, Mass. are taking the time to learn all about Islam — in the most embarrassingly shallow and cheerleading way imaginable.

Part of the textbook prints the Muslim Call to Prayer, according to Boston NBC affiliate WHDH.

“I bear witness that there is no God but Allah,” it says.

The textbook portion also reverently celebrates Muhammad’s life.

“Muhammad never expected to change world,” the admiring, rah-rah textbook reads.

“Muhammad later tended sheep on the dry hills like many young Arabians,” the text explains. “Later he became a successful merchant and married a wealthy widow. However, he felt as though something was missing in his life, so he went on a retreat.”

The founder of Islam was “upset about the cruelty of his people,” the text also optimistically explains. They “killed baby girls.” They “treated their slaves unkindly.” And “Muhammad had a strong sense of right and wrong.”

Grab a bucket.

More at:
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2014/11/02/all...onversion/

[genkaus]

Wow, that's a very generous interpretation of events. But there is in fact bias in the questions e.g. why no questions about Muhammad's gruesome deeds? Because it's Disneyland.

There were questions about his upbringing, the changes in his life, the Hijrah and the treatment of conquered people. Any neutral party can answer these questions by pointing out the good and the bad. The questions provide ample opportunity to list his gruesome deeds. Asking specific questions about atrocities would be as biased as asking specific questions about "How Mohammad benefited the world".

And a few of the answers (Mohammed's forgiveness of the Meccans, jihad means struggle, and the treatment of minorities) are only partially true and whitewash the whole gruesome truth.

Then the whitewash is being done by the one answering the questions.

This shows they have in fact been brainwashed by the teachers.

No, it doesn't - not unless you give evidence that those are the only things the teachers taught.

The questions generally lean towards (a) Mohammed was a kind and forgiving man and (b) Islam means peace and tolerance. It's obvious.

No, they don't. The questions themselves have no such leanings.

And common sense tells you that virtually no school in the Western world would countenance frank views about Islam. They would run a millions miles from that topic.

Do you mean to say that Western schools misrepresent historical facts pertaining to Islam?

He was allegedly acting in a "threatening" manner. But who cares, the point is about Islam, not the parent.

No, the point is whether the school is promoting a religion by misrepresenting facts and if so, what remedy can the parents pursue.

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The test does not address the ugliness in Islam or its history, so it is clearly a biased, dumbed-down version of history.

The test itself addresses neither the ugliness nor its beauty. That is the purpose of what is actually being taught in the class. Do we know anything about that?

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To the extent the assignment whitewashes the ferocity of the Muslim conquests and the violence in the Koran, I have some sympathy for the outraged father.

The problem is, I'm not certain it does. The answers depict a clear white-washing - on that I agree - and if that is all that is being taught in the school, then there is a very good reason for criticism. But then, this is Fox News we are listening to here.

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Here's a similar story, from a Massachusetts school. The bias is so thick that Mohammed sounds like an angel.

Yup - this one had real bias. BTW, which textbook is it from? And how did it get approved and assigned to the curriculum?

[Lao Shizi]

Here's a similar story, from a Massachusetts school. The bias is so thick that Mohammed sounds like an angel.

Massachusetts Father Mad Just Because Public School Teaches ‘There Is No God But Allah’
http://news.yahoo.com/massachusetts-fath...17637.html

... students in the oceanfront Boston suburb of Revere, Mass. are taking the time to learn all about Islam — in the most embarrassingly shallow and cheerleading way imaginable.

Part of the textbook prints the Muslim Call to Prayer, according to Boston NBC affiliate WHDH.

“I bear witness that there is no God but Allah,” it says.

The textbook portion also reverently celebrates Muhammad’s life.

“Muhammad never expected to change world,” the admiring, rah-rah textbook reads.

“Muhammad later tended sheep on the dry hills like many young Arabians,” the text explains. “Later he became a successful merchant and married a wealthy widow. However, he felt as though something was missing in his life, so he went on a retreat.”

The founder of Islam was “upset about the cruelty of his people,” the text also optimistically explains. They “killed baby girls.” They “treated their slaves unkindly.” And “Muhammad had a strong sense of right and wrong.”

Grab a bucket.

More at:
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2014/11/02/all...onversion/

You sound a lot like an angry Christian defending the world from Islam. I see nothing biased in those questions, and your sources for the other stories are absurd. this is the story that your Daily Caller hit piece was based on. Notice the difference?
Some Revere parents upset over Islam in curriculum

Posted: Oct 20, 2014 7:31 PM PDT
Updated: Oct 22, 2014 2:44 AM PDT


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REVERE, Mass. (WHDH) - Some parents in Revere were angry when they learned students were being taught about Islam and the Muslim religion.

"No religion should be taught at school. In their paper it says Allah is their only God. That's insulting to me as a Christian who believes in just Jesus only," said Anthony Giannino.

A section of the textbook describing the beliefs of Muslims says, "I bear witness that there is no God but Allah."

Giannino immediately pulled his son out of the classroom.

"We don't believe in Allah. I don't believe in my son learning about this here," he said. "If my son was from another country and came here, he would have been catered to. But where he's not being catered to, they give him an F."

The superintendent of Revere Public Schools wrote the parents a letter explaining that it is simply part of the history in that section of the curriculum, and stated, "I want to be very clear that no religion is taught with the purpose of converting students to that religion..."

Other parents said they had no issue with the assignment.

"What is Muslim about, what is Christianity about. That's what I teach at home. Everybody should respect everybody else's religion," said Idalia Garcia.

"When you're talking about a specific region in the world, there's going to be traditions and there's gonna be religions that children should learn about," said Ovidio Raffa.

But some parents said they did not want their kids learning anything about Islam.

"They should also say to you, 'in history, your son is going to learn about Islam,' send out a letter," said Giannino, who also said he was starting a petition and had plenty of supporters.