Quote:To be fair, they were escaping religious persecution,
To be completely honest they were escaping religious persecution so that they could go somewhere and do some persecuting of their own.
Fifty Questions That Christians Can't Answer
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Quote:To be fair, they were escaping religious persecution, To be completely honest they were escaping religious persecution so that they could go somewhere and do some persecuting of their own.
It would certainly appear that way, wouldn't it, Min?
Oh please trust me; when I stated what I did; keep in mind that I said, "When I was a kid"......That's been 2 marriages and teenagers of my on ago....lol
I've read enough on the Witch Trials, Deist forefathers, and Colonization of the U.S. to start wanting to strangle myself and a dead Puritan.... Just as stated to Tack, on another topic...."Christians telling me that, "At least we are not as bad as we were in the dark ages"...Does just as much explaining as a Clan member saying, "At least we don't hang as many Negros as we did in the good ole days".... Both may not be as bad, but they are still judgmental pricks when it's core is exposed......
Intelligence is the only true moral guide...
So all Christians are judgemental pricks then?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari (February 19, 2010 at 11:58 pm)tackattack Wrote: So all Christians are judgemental pricks then? I figured you would jump in on that one...LOLOL No, just the "MASS" majority and especially the MASS majority here in the South.. I'm sure I could find a few Clan members that were nice, humble, and would cut off his/her own arm to protect a friend.... That still doesn't make what he/she believes in right or moral by any means.......Just a nice person that's a little confused.....
Intelligence is the only true moral guide...
RE: Fifty Questions That Christians Can't Answer
February 20, 2010 at 12:44 am
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I'd question your use of mass but then again I'm part of the community and therefore a subjective judge. That statement was made by me Shelllb , so I have every right to feel compared to clan members and judgemental pricks, even though it was taken out of context and only a joke. If that's the way you feel come on over and have a beer so I can prove you wrong. Oh, and we'll have it at my church where 150 others can prove you wrong as well. Judgemental pricks and bigots are everywhere and I would say religion has equivicobal number in relation to populace.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari (February 16, 2010 at 1:34 am)Xyster Wrote: Got another one for you Shell B... Religion is not like math. If a=b and a=c, that does not mean b=c. Religion evolves. The rebellious angel (morning star) was Lucifer the light bringer. This was the last defiant star which remained shining after all other stars were dim. It was the rival of the moon (YHWH). This is an OT negative aspect. In the NT prophecy the morning star comes before the rise of the sun, hence it announces the arrival. This was the role of John the Baptist as Elijah. For some reason Revelation places Jesus in that role as his own announcer. Jesus should be "the light" not the "light bringer." The confusion may be that "light bringer" is someone who brings the light of truth and not the planet Venus in this case.
"On Earth as it is in Heaven, the Cosmic Roots of the Bible" available on the Amazon.
RE: Fifty Questions That Christians Can't Answer
February 20, 2010 at 9:32 am
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(February 19, 2010 at 6:19 pm)Samson Wrote: Oh yes, because there was no social morals before Christianity or a Bible was in tack.... *Looks for evidence of anyone arguing Christian moral precedence in this thread* (February 19, 2010 at 6:19 pm)Samson Wrote: You fuckers wreaked havoc for 700+ years to organize your, so called, "Morality" on a broader spectrum of social organized Institution. The age old expression of my way or the highway...Or better yet, my way or be killed was the Christian principles of then... "We fuckers" being the corrupt rulers using Christianity as an excuse? (February 19, 2010 at 6:19 pm)Samson Wrote: 600+ years before your zombie boy or babble, you had men such as Buddha and Confucius spreading teachings of peace, cleanliness, education, and human rights. Which of course had not a damn thing to do with a Christ character or inhumane lessons book.... Wot... no atheists?!? (February 19, 2010 at 6:19 pm)Samson Wrote: Just through observation and data collected; the societies that have moved further and further away from the dogmas have reached a better social conscious of morality, than the ones with. Yet they are identical to some part of Christian morality that it is alo based on in western society! I think the US legislating for religious freedom and non involvement in government is actually completely in line with Christian thinking BTW.
Judeo-Christian principles included a lack of woman's rights even though many pagan societies gave rights to women. Many Gnostic sects practiced giving women equal rights as men in church. Paul was against it and Christianity modeled itself after Paul.
Slavery was an institution supported by numerous biblical quotations. (Servent=slave in the Bibe.) It was also incorporated into the US Constitution under the 3/5 ths compromise. The genocide of Native Americans was also biblical as preachers would quote Romans and Psalms, that the heathen lands were theirs to take. Of the 3 mentioned negative aspects of Christian morality, I suspect slavery and genocide would have happened with or without the wonderful support of Jesus as they are simply a matter of economics. The Karl Roves of their era would have found an excuse. The lack of woman rights, however, I lay at the feet of religion.
"On Earth as it is in Heaven, the Cosmic Roots of the Bible" available on the Amazon.
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