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RE: The End of the World
December 2, 2014 at 8:57 pm
(December 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm)professor Wrote: Man, you guys just do not understand.
Are you satisfied with the status as it has been?
I want to see people unmolested by tyrants, their property in their own possession,
an end to evil people creating war, false religionists murdering those who will not bow to them, no more government of the rich for the rich and by the rich.
Theft and lying standard behavior.
Can't you see- the players change but the game never changes.
The players have to be replaced- and not with more of the same.
The above is not death wishes.
It is the desire all of you have for justice and truth.
It just happens that I believe it will only come from above. By force.
Yes, I am watching the clock.
Look around, things are not normal.
Hi, professor. Naturally, we would like an end to these dreadful things as well. I would argue that your statement regarding "false religionists" is off the mark; the adherents to Islam (which I assume you're referring to) engaging in this brutality are most likely the "truest" religionists (as far as Islam is concerned at any rate) due to their fundamentalist interpretations of the Qur'an.
In fact, many of these things you have mentioned are the direct results of religion. Evil people create wars precisely because of religion. Are we to believe that the cause is somehow simultaneously the cure?
The problem I have with Christians (as well as other theists) is that I see a lot of hand-wringing about this "fallen world" but precious few coordinated efforts to make it a better place.
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RE: The End of the World
December 2, 2014 at 9:25 pm
(December 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm)professor Wrote: Man, you guys just do not understand.
Are you satisfied with the status as it has been?
I want to see people unmolested by tyrants, their property in their own possession,
an end to evil people creating war, false religionists murdering those who will not bow to them, no more government of the rich for the rich and by the rich.
Theft and lying standard behavior.
Can't you see- the players change but the game never changes.
The players have to be replaced- and not with more of the same.
The above is not death wishes.
It is the desire all of you have for justice and truth.
It just happens that I believe it will only come from above. By force.
Yes, I am watching the clock.
Look around, things are not normal.
Consider who made this mess, and explain your adoration.
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RE: The End of the World
December 2, 2014 at 9:44 pm
(December 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm)professor Wrote: Man, you guys just do not understand.
Are you satisfied with the status as it has been? How would waiting on a pretend magician change the status for anyone?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: The End of the World
December 2, 2014 at 9:50 pm
Quote:I want to see people unmolested by tyrants, their property in their own possession, an end to evil people creating war, false religionists murdering those who will not bow to them, no more government of the rich for the rich and by the rich.
So your solution is to have your god kill them? WTF is wrong with you, prof.
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RE: The End of the World
December 2, 2014 at 9:58 pm
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(December 2, 2014 at 9:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I want to see people unmolested by tyrants, their property in their own possession, an end to evil people creating war, false religionists murdering those who will not bow to them, no more government of the rich for the rich and by the rich.
So your solution is to have your god kill them? WTF is wrong with you, prof.
You're forgetting religion fucks up people like that. so your saying religions older than you new testament bullshit should be eradicated. Christianity stole from Buddhism and other religions professor you fool.
By professors own words he wants god to wipe out the majority of humanity. Even if god did that it won't stop people from having wars and it wont stop people from getting molested. Also may i add Christianity
and other religions are the cause of most modern wars while the political wars over land hardly happens. Religion is the root of all evil money is not its just the backer of stupidity and something greedy and needy for power
I.E. religion because the religious gladly throw their lives away over a god who doesn't seem to exist or if that being exist just plainly doesn't give a fuck about his or her creations to begin with.
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RE: The End of the World
December 2, 2014 at 10:27 pm
Min, the evil powers are not at their final point of judgment (they have big plans coming up).
They will ultimately make the gigantic mistake of gathering together at a valley outside of Jerusalem for a final thrust.
It will be their "Custer's Last stand".
These people will bring it upon their own heads.
Just as the last judgment against Pharaoh was to drown with his army- history will repeat.
He asked for it, and these Elete are in the same boat.
Ah religion, it has been used against us since Day One.
It is used by wicked people as a lever of control.
The "Ceasers" all claimed to be gods, their offsprings- the Popes followed in their tyrannical footsteps, just as the murdering Islamics are doing now.
It is all evil people in power.
Remember the corrupting ability of power.
The very reason the US had a tri-fold division of it- to spread it out.
Your thinking is we can somehow find people immune to corruption?
Or a system immune to it?
How many thousands of years do U need to observe, to figure out you are holding onto a fairy tale.
Not going to happen.
Yes, there has been some progress- the civil rights movement for one.
But one thing is won and the enemy within and without advances with new strategies.
Again, same song different singers.
We can begin by confronting the selfish ways within ourselves but the job will not go far until the spiritual realm is cleansed.
Stuffed Devil anyone?
That is what is coming.
Don't be in his pocket.
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RE: The End of the World
December 2, 2014 at 11:19 pm
(December 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm)professor Wrote: Man, you guys just do not understand.
Are you satisfied with the status as it has been?
I want to see people unmolested by tyrants, their property in their own possession,
an end to evil people creating war, false religionists murdering those who will not bow to them, no more government of the rich for the rich and by the rich.
Theft and lying standard behavior.
Can't you see- the players change but the game never changes.
The players have to be replaced- and not with more of the same.
The above is not death wishes.
It is the desire all of you have for justice and truth.
It just happens that I believe it will only come from above. By force.
Yes, I am watching the clock.
Look around, things are not normal.
I want to see all these things too but I don't understand why murdering people who aren't thieves or tyrants is any better. Most Christians believe that the end of the world will mean that anyone who doesn't worship their god will be killed. That means that a lot of people who have never killed or stolen or knowingly hurt anyone else will be killed.
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RE: The End of the World
December 3, 2014 at 1:52 am
(December 2, 2014 at 11:19 pm)Nope Wrote: (December 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm)professor Wrote:
I want to see all these things too but I don't understand why murdering people who aren't thieves or tyrants is any better. Most Christians believe that the end of the world will mean that anyone who doesn't worship their god will be killed. That means that a lot of people who have never killed or stolen or knowingly hurt anyone else will be killed.
Christians look forward to the time when Christ will reign, anyone who looks forward to the last days must be crazy, there has never been such terror in all of history combined, this will be a spiritual war, Satan and all his minions against Christ and all His angels. Powers will be unleashed that no man can imagine, John saw in a vision what will happen and he couldn't describe it, he was only able to reference what he knew as horrible and terrifying.
It will be a war everyone will join into, no murder, but there will be killing by the millions if not the billions. Many will die in disasters before the final war, no one will be considered innocent that oppose God in the finally. What I just described will happen right at the end and, then perfection will reign forever. This perfection is what I'm looking forward to.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The End of the World
December 3, 2014 at 2:02 am
(December 3, 2014 at 1:52 am)Godschild Wrote: (December 2, 2014 at 11:19 pm)Nope Wrote: I want to see all these things too but I don't understand why murdering people who aren't thieves or tyrants is any better. Most Christians believe that the end of the world will mean that anyone who doesn't worship their god will be killed. That means that a lot of people who have never killed or stolen or knowingly hurt anyone else will be killed.
Christians look forward to the time when Christ will reign, anyone who looks forward to the last days must be crazy, there has never been such terror in all of history combined, this will be a spiritual war, Satan and all his minions against Christ and all His angels. Powers will be unleashed that no man can imagine, John saw in a vision what will happen and he couldn't describe it, he was only able to reference what he knew as horrible and terrifying.
It will be a war everyone will join into, no murder, but there will be killing by the millions if not the billions. Many will die in disasters before the final war, no one will be considered innocent that oppose God in the finally. What I just described will happen right at the end and, then perfection will reign forever. This perfection is what I'm looking forward to.
GC
GC if you are burning in hell next to me or not burning i would say you did your best but it was not good enough to avoid hell and then laugh.
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RE: The End of the World
December 3, 2014 at 2:13 am
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