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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:21 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (December 11, 2014 at 5:55 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Being homosexual is a deficiency? Yes. It is contrary to the natural order, since the defining desires of homosexuality are directed away from the proper use of human sexuality.
Natural order is a manmade phantasy. There is no such thing
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:22 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:09 pm)abaris Wrote: The Bonobos for example, some of our closests relatives, fuck indiscriminately. So humans should behave like apes?
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:23 pm
We are apes.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:24 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:20 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: This includes having natural desires for the things that are naturally beneficial (healthy reproduction) and being disgusted by things that are detrimental (sodomy). So that would put those who are sterile or voluntarily choose not reproduce in the same category as homosexuals.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:25 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:20 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The final end of an acorn is to produce a mature oak capable of bearing fruit.
So you are unreasonably comparing humans to acorns. Last I checked, humans are far more complex than acorns.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:25 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:20 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Sounds like you're playing with words to be obtuse. All living things tend to a final end. The final end of an acorn is to produce a mature oak capable of bearing fruit. Anyone can see that if the acorn lands on hard ground or otherwise circumstances, then it does not realize realize its potential. In the same way a normal human being has fully functioning senses. That some people are deaf does not change the fact that human beings are intended to have hearing. This includes having natural desires for the things that are naturally beneficial (healthy reproduction) and being disgusted by things that are detrimental (sodomy).
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:25 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:22 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: So humans should behave like apes?
We are primates. Sharing 99 point something of genes with the chimps. Common ancestor, you know. Nothing special about us, even if it bursts your bubble of god's chosen.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:28 pm
I wonder why the expression isn't "More fun than a barrel of bonobos"? I mean -- damn! -- talk about a party!
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:28 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 6:22 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (December 11, 2014 at 6:09 pm)abaris Wrote: The Bonobos for example, some of our closests relatives, fuck indiscriminately. So humans should behave like apes?
Well, we are apes, to begin with.
But we should be able to live as sexual creatures without religious groups trying to make us ashamed of our sexuality. Which is a common theme among many religions.
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
December 11, 2014 at 6:33 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Sionnach Wrote: Quote:A group claiming to advocate for "ex-gays" has purchased a billboard along a busy Virginia highway proclaiming that "Nobody is born gay," reports Richmond TV station WWBT.
PFOX is a nonprofit organization which claims that people can choose not to be gay, stating on its website that "people deserve to know the truth about the many men, women, and children who have made the decision to change their lives" and "overcome same-sex attraction." Founded in 1998, PFOX proudly announces it "was created specifically to be an alternative to the misinformed gay family groups which insist that parents only prove their love for their gay child if they support gay rights and affirm their child's self-proclaimed gay identity. PFOX teaches parents that it's ok to love their children without placing any conditions on that love."
http://www.advocate.com/ex-gay-therapy/2...y-born-gay
I miss the old days when 'gay' just meant happy-go-lucky. Why do we have to label anyone?
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