Damned Christians

[TheWhiteMarten]

The steel is already blackened, there is no need to cut the fire up higher.

More nonsense. Your tactic is not to say anything factual but to overwhelm every topic with bullshit and have the last word.

Nuh uh.

[Fake Messiah]

Christian Nationalism’s First Item on the Agenda: Repeal Women’s Right to Vote

Right after the election, Pastor Joel Webbon, president of the Right Response Ministries, said that half of his vote was stolen from him by the 19th Amendment—that would be the 1920 amendment that enshrined women’s right to vote.

Webbon and other Christian nationalists’ argument against women’s suffrage is part of a broader picture of how Christian nationalism uses Christian theology to change the entire election process itself.

“If we had a Christian nation tomorrow, and women did have the right to vote, we would not have a Christian nation within 50 years because the husband has been appointed by God as the head of his home,” Webbon said.

In fact, more than a hundred years earlier, a member of the Christian Reformed Church used the same argument that the Bible opposes suffrage, and taught that society consists of families, not individuals.

Webbon uses the same argument that late 19th- and 20th-century anti-suffragists used: that women’s right to vote is a moral issue in that it impinges on men’s rights and interferes with women’s predestined roles as wife and mother.

Webbon and others rely on misogynistic themes that they argue are rooted in the Bible. Two years ago, Webbon tweeted that “women are more easily deceived than men,” alongside his argument that the 19th Amendment was a “bad idea.” Anti-suffragists used the same argument that women neither have the knowledge nor the minds to serve as well-informed voters; that tending to their families and households prevented them from staying updated on politics.

Anti-suffragist movements were also closely associated with early 20th century Christian nationalism (which also had its fair share of xenophobic, racist and antisemitic elements). At the crux of this White Christian nationalism was the protection—often through violent means—of white women’s purity.

https://msmagazine.com/2024/11/29/christ...-suffrage/

[Fake Messiah]

BBC documentary about prosperity gospel pastors, like Pastor Tobi Adegboyega, in the UK who convinced their sheep to give the church £1000 every month. The church also takes loans in the name of churchgoers without their knowledge. When they confront pastors about money scams, they get replies like "How dare you not trust the man of God."

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Christian Nationalism’s First Item on the Agenda: Repeal Women’s Right to Vote

Right after the election, Pastor Joel Webbon, president of the Right Response Ministries, said that half of his vote was stolen from him by the 19th Amendment—that would be the 1920 amendment that enshrined women’s right to vote.

Webbon and other Christian nationalists’ argument against women’s suffrage is part of a broader picture of how Christian nationalism uses Christian theology to change the entire election process itself.

“If we had a Christian nation tomorrow, and women did have the right to vote, we would not have a Christian nation within 50 years because the husband has been appointed by God as the head of his home,” Webbon said.

In fact, more than a hundred years earlier, a member of the Christian Reformed Church used the same argument that the Bible opposes suffrage, and taught that society consists of families, not individuals.

Webbon uses the same argument that late 19th- and 20th-century anti-suffragists used: that women’s right to vote is a moral issue in that it impinges on men’s rights and interferes with women’s predestined roles as wife and mother.

Webbon and others rely on misogynistic themes that they argue are rooted in the Bible. Two years ago, Webbon tweeted that “women are more easily deceived than men,” alongside his argument that the 19th Amendment was a “bad idea.” Anti-suffragists used the same argument that women neither have the knowledge nor the minds to serve as well-informed voters; that tending to their families and households prevented them from staying updated on politics.

Anti-suffragist movements were also closely associated with early 20th century Christian nationalism (which also had its fair share of xenophobic, racist and antisemitic elements). At the crux of this White Christian nationalism was the protection—often through violent means—of white women’s purity.

https://msmagazine.com/2024/11/29/christ...-suffrage/

Well, that's just plain dumb and stupid. It's going to be difficult (to say the least) to get women to vote to give up their right to vote.

Boru

[Sheldon]

1099: The Crusaders forced all of the Jews of Jerusalem into a central synagogue and set it on fire. Those who tried to escape were forced back into the burning building.

The punishment of aiding an army that is defending a city against siege is death.

Another example of the Christian "value" you put on life, very edifying again.

[TheWhiteMarten]

The punishment of aiding an army that is defending a city against siege is death.

Another example of the Christian "value" you put on life, very edifying again.

"Slavery existed in America."

"Wow, I knew (insert your group here) supported slavery."

If we want to discuss the morals of it, what is your solution to the problem of a city that has held out for months/years - costing you that many months of supplies, progress and lives - and now is a risk of rising up against you once you progress?

[The Architect Of Fate]

"Slavery existed in America."

Yup 

"Wow, I knew (insert your group here) supported slavery."

Mine didn't 

If we want to discuss the morals of it, what is your solution to the problem of a city that has held out for months/years - costing you that many months of supplies, progress and lives - and now is a risk of rising up against you once you progress?

Not doing that.

[The Architect Of Fate]

The punishment of aiding an army that is defending a city against siege is death.

Lol well that makes it all okay then ........

[Sheldon]

Another example of the Christian "value" you put on life, very edifying again.

"Slavery existed in America."

"Wow, I knew (insert your group here) supported slavery."

Your penchant for irrelevant gibberish is tedious. 

If we want to discuss the morals of it, what is your solution to the problem of a city that has held out for months/years - costing you that many months of supplies, progress and lives - and now is a risk of rising up against you once you progress?

You made a sententious claim that atheists don't understand the way Christians value human life, then made a string of claims devaluing human life. Only you can know how this ironic hypocrisy on your part, requires me to explain hypotheticals you are now creating from your fetid imagination? 

Morality is subjective of course, and relative, nonetheless your crass remarks portraying poor people as of less value, by suggesting their deaths from gun crime are fine, but others like this wealthy CEO represent a moral decline in the US, do not suggest someone who places any value on human life, it rather suggests immoral hypocrisy, that devalues human life in defence of insanely lax gun laws that inevitably must lead to the largest number of privately owned guns in the world, and the equally inevitable corresponding gun violence and deaths that results. 

Yet you can get all bent out of shape over a woman's right to terminate a microscopic clump of insentient cells, or laws that grant people the right to end their lives with dignity when their suffering has become unbearable, with no prospect of any quality of life remaining. 

That someone exposed the hypocrisy of your claim to place more value on human life as a Christian, than atheists, by pointing out that your religion has a long history of violent bloodletting and murder, does not require me, or anybody else, to offer alternative choices than mass murder to your hypothetical scenarios. You think mass murder is fine, I get it, I was merely highlighting the irony and the hypocrisy against your earlier arrogant lie about the value atheists place on life.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So were all in agreement TheWhiteMarten is a troll with no serious perspectives. Who just spew bullshit because he's got nothing and has thoroughly had his ass handed to him on pretty much every topic so far.