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Damned Christians
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'They’re relentless.' How a Christian group turns beliefs into bills

The Center for Christian Virtue began as a little-known group of anti-pornography crusaders in Cincinnati over 40 years ago. Now, it is Ohio's largest Christian policy group with headquarters directly across from the Statehouse.

Over the past decade, CCV has lobbied on more than 300 bills and created a network of religious schools and churches. Since 2020, its revenue has quadrupled, raising more than $4 million last year.

CCV is backed by major conservative groups and figures such as the Heritage Foundation. Conservative activist Charlie Kirk was slated to be a keynote speaker at CCV's Sept. 26 gala.

CCV has been designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its anti-LGBTQ stances. The group's president previously dismissed the center as "liberal political hacks" on social media.

The Center for Christian Virtue's growing influence represents a shift in how Christian conservatives engage with politics in Ohio and nationwide. The libertarian bent in Republican politics is fading. Now, Christian lobbyists are shaping the legislative agenda in red states like Ohio.

"We are starting to see a trend that also reflects the national trend right now, of a conservative party that is more about forcing Christian values on everyone and less about a ‘live and let live,’ free-market philosophy," said Jessie Hill, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University who has challenged Ohio's abortion restrictions.

In 1993, CCV pushed through a ban on Cincinnati laws protecting gay people from discrimination. That was repealed 11 years later.

In 2004, the group led a successful ballot initiative to ban same-sex marriages in Ohio. That language became moot in 2015 when the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriages in a case brought by Cincinnati native Jim Obergefell.

The Christian lobbyists were instrumental in changing state law to allow every private school student to take advantage of taxpayer-funded scholarships, known as EdChoice vouchers. Public school leaders vehemently opposed the change, which sparked a legal battle.

CCV also helped pass a ban on most abortions, which blocked access to the procedure for months after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in 2022. Ohio made national headlines after a young rape victim was forced to travel to Indiana for an abortion.

“They work hard, and they’re relentless. They’re not afraid to take on big battles,” said state Sen. Kristina Roegner, a Republican in Akron's metro area who sponsored the 2019 abortion ban. Her son-in-law works for Christian Business Partnerships, CCV's chamber of commerce for Christian business owners.

Despite their growing influence, the Christian lobbyists aren't always victorious. In 2023, Ohio voters approved a constitutional amendment to protect abortion access and rejected the CCV-backed abortion ban. Voters also shot down an effort to make it harder to amend the state constitution, which was aimed at blocking the abortion measure.

Williams, a Republican who represents a district outside Toledo, sought out CCV while running for the state Legislature in 2022. Since then, he’s worked with the Christian lobbyists on several bills, including one to ban gender-affirming care for minors and prevent transgender girls from participating in women’s sports.

Williams also sponsored a CCV-backed bill to ban public drag performances outside of adult cabaret venues, called the “Indecent Exposure Act.”

Through its Minnery Fellowship, CCV offers online training for pastors to help them “speak to the difficult cultural and political issues facing their members today,” according to the fellowship's website. A page on CCV’s website advises pastors how to legally support political candidates and get their congregations to engage with legislation.

Baer said there are more than 4,000 "church ambassadors" in CCV's network.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/po...181115007/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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White Christians' fear of Black people is dangerous. A notable Catholic fueled the hysteria.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Charlie Kirk, a Christian nationalist, repeatedly used language similar to 1 Peter's description of the devil, speaking of “Black criminals” who are “prowling” around looking to kill White victims. He is not the first Christian to speak like this. As I'll explain, similar inflammatory rhetoric from a prominent Catholic in the late 1990s has also shown to be dangerous and deadly to Black Americans.

The Catholic political scientist and professor John DiIulio Jr. coined the term “superpredator” to describe particularly delinquent boys, especially those who are African-American. His 1995 article “The Coming of the Super-Predators” using dubious statistics, DiIulio deduced that a staggering new wave of youth crime was inevitable, and according to him, “the trouble will be the greatest in black inner-city neighborhoods.”

In 1996, DiIulio wrote an even more racist and unapologetic warning about Black youth titled, “My Black Crime Problem, and Ours.” Therein, he used talking points that have since been thoroughly debunked, such as that there were no racial disparities between cocaine trafficking sentences, that the war on drugs and death penalty were both racially unbiased, and several other racist claims about Black criminality.

DiIulio's articles had a major impact on the way the public, politicians, police, and governmental entities—even President Bill Clinton—treated young people, and especially young Black boys, in recent years.

Using Christian language, DiIulio argued that “moral poverty” was to blame for the upcoming societal threat posed by young boys. His solution, therefore, was “religion” and investing in churches to provide services that would boost social and economic development, especially in low-income Black neighborhoods.

At the time, DiIulio was celebrated as a kind of prophet, someone who was brave enough to tell it like it is. By the end of the 1990s, almost every state had toughened its criminal laws concerning young people.

What DiIulio created was a caricatured image of violent Black men that harkened back to similar views during slavery. In the superpredator stereotype, young Black boys and men were not fully human; they were animal-like predators with no conscience, ability to tell right from wrong, or capacity for human emotions like love and empathy. They were more like the “prowling devil” looking for their next victim that would—in the eyes of the White public—most likely be one of them.

On Charlie Kirk’s Facebook page, in his September 10, 2025 video, he stated bogus statistics, like that 1 in 22 Black men will become murderers in their lifetime, which is statistically impossible to predict for many reasons. He argued that Black people commit the most crime in America, which is also patently false. Yet, like many did with DiIulio, right-wing American Christians laud Kirk as one who wasn't afraid to stand up and proclaim the “truth.”

Even right now, the criminal legal system’s pendulum is swinging rightward once again with the Trump administration weaponizing public fear of “inner-city violence” while ignoring the predominately White male domestic terrorists using guns to murder children in their schools, adults in public, worshippers at church, and even Charlie Kirk at his own public debate.

After Donald Trump took the presidential office for the second time; racial profiling, targeted violence, detainment, and deportation are now focused on the immigrant communities in the United States.

https://www.blackcatholicmessenger.org/w...dangerous/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Damned Christians
The fight over Christian nationalism in a small Tennessee town

They are self-described "Christian nationalists" who question modern values, such as whether female suffrage and the civil rights movement were good ideas, and call for mass deportations of legal immigrants far in excess of President Donald Trump's current plan. Another thing they sometimes say: "Repeal the 20th Century."

Podcasters move in.

Mr Isker and Mr Engel announced their move to Gainesboro last year on their podcast Contra Mundum - Latin for "against the world".

On their show, which is now recorded in a studio within Ridgerunner's Gainesboro office, they have encouraged their fans to move into small communities, seek local influence, and join them in their fight to put strict conservative Christian values at the heart of American governance.

"If you could build places where you can take political power," Mr Isker said on one episode, "which might mean sitting on the [board of] county commissioners, or even having the ear of the county commissioners and sheriff… being able to do those things is extremely, extremely valuable."

On X, Mr Engel has popularised the idea of "heritage Americans" - a fuzzy concept but one that applies mainly to Anglo-Protestants whose ancestors arrived in the US at least a century ago. He says it is not explicitly white, but it does have "strong ethnic correlations".

He's called for mass deportations of immigrants - including legal ones - writing: "Peoples like Indians, or South East Asians or Ecuadorians or immigrated Africans are the least capable of fitting in and should be sent home immediately."

Their hardcore views have alarmed residents, with some locals setting up an informal resistance group.

"I believe that they have been attempting to brand our town and our county as a headquarters for their ideology of Christian nationalism," says town matriarch Diana Mandli, a prominent local businesswoman who until recently owned a pub on Gainesboro's central square.

But business is brisk. Around half of the lots are already under contract. Mr Abbotoy anticipates that the first houses will be built and new customers will begin moving in at the beginning of 2027.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c997j105941o.amp
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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People Who Left 'MAGA Christianity' Share What It Really Took To Step Away

HuffPost spoke with former followers of “MAGA Christianity” about their experiences being a part of these communities — and why they made the decision to step away from them.

Growing up Southern Baptist, Anna Rollins said that Christianity was presented as nearly inseparable from Republican identity, with patriotic symbols and language woven throughout church life. “Faith and freedom were often talked about in the same breath,” she said. “We often sang patriotic songs in church services, in addition to hymns. Nationalism was tightly woven in with Christianity.”

Sugiuchi, a Georgia-based writer whose upcoming memoir “Unreformed” recounts her experience in a white evangelical reform school, illuminates how these pressures can escalate: “MAGA Christianity is a cult. I know because I was in it,” she said.

Leaving isn’t easy; it can take everything to break free. In her experience, she had to escape to survive, reflecting that many believers are effectively brainwashed and may not even recognize the influence shaping them.

“I’m terrified about the merging of politics and Christianity,” said Sugiuchi. Over the years, she’s spoken about these concerns and fears in essays and interviews. She warns that if people of faith remain silent, others risk being swept into systems of control, citing the rapid expansion of unregulated faith-based organizations and the use of religious freedom claims to undermine civil rights.

“And now, as an adult, we have a president whom many equate with God… and surprise — the White House, and the country, is literally being torn to pieces,” she said.

“If there was one message I received in my formative years when it came to the intersection of faith and politics, it was simply this: Vote Republican. There was no other option,” Cara Meredith, author of ”Church Camp: Bad Skits, Cry Night, and How White Evangelicalism Betrayed a Generation,” told HuffPost.

“If you identified as Christian, you voted for the Republican Party; it was a matter of good and evil, of the side God clearly stood on and the side God clearly did not stand.”

For Sugiuchi, the turning point came after years of trauma rooted in white evangelical extremism. At 15, she was sent to Escuela Caribe, an evangelical reform school, for failing to be a “subservient adolescent female.” There, she and her peers endured what she describes as near-unimaginable oppression, all justified as being “for our own good, in the name of Jesus.”

“By keeping silent, other people were being abused in the name of religion,” she says. “As a survivor, it’s the cruelest way to abuse a child. It completely destroys your faith in humanity.”

With Scheeres’ help and that of others, Sugiuchi ultimately helped shut the school down. Today, she maintains her own faith practice but has no connection to organized religion.

Levings, author of the New York Times bestseller “A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape From Christian Patriarchy,” describes MAGA Christianity as the overlap between authoritarian Christianity and Christian nationalism.

According to Levings, modern churches have done little to protect their congregations from nationalist influence, and because authoritarian parenting has shaped family life for over 50 years. The result, she explains, is that the meaning of being a Christian in America has fundamentally changed.

She points to trauma bonding within churches, unaccountable pastors who accelerated the nationalist turn, generations raised without robust critical thinking skills, and a steady stream of misinformation that reinforces groupthink.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/leaving-m...a4c3879fa2
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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What Christian podcasts are still debating:

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Baptists: "I don't care that an unarmed man got gunned down in the street."

Also Baptists: "Why are people leaving our churches in droves?"

Quote:'I Don't Care How Much They Scream': William Wolfe Backs Trump's Violent Deportation Operations

William Wolfe, who now runs the Center For Baptist Leadership, recently appeared on the "Give Me Liberty" program, hosted by Ryan Helfenbein of Liberty University's Standing For Freedom Center, to discuss the anti-ICE protests taking place in Minneapolis.

Wolfe praised the administration and was quick to remind everyone that mass deportations were a key plank in the GOP's 2024 platform and so they have no right to complain about the brutality of the operations.

"People are saying, 'I voted for Trump and I wanted illegals out, but I didn't vote for this,'" Wolfe declared. "Well, if you're a Republican, you voted for the biggest mass deportation in American history. You did vote for this and it's going to look like this and it's going to be ugly because if we win, we take this country back. And if we don't win on the ICE and the deportation, the left stays in power."

"We are citizens, but they are stealing our sovereignty unto themselves. Really, it's a foreign invasion of our country."

"I don't care how much they scream," Wolfe proclaimed. "I don't care how much they cry. I don't care how loud they protest. And I don't care how much it costs. And I don't care how many of my fellow American citizens who recklessly impede legitimate law enforcement operations suffer the consequences of their reckless actions—I'd hope it'd be zero; they need to knock it off. I don't care. I want my country back, whatever it takes, no matter how much it costs. And this is what we elected Donald Trump to do."

In addition to his work with the CBL, Wolfe has also served as a visiting fellow at OMB Director Russ Vought’s Center for Renewing America, which identified Christian nationalism as a priority for the Trump administration.

In 2023, Wolfe joined radical Christian nationalists Joel Webbon, Dusty Deevers, and others in drafting a document called “The Statement on Christian Nationalism and the Gospel,” which declared that the United States must formally “acknowledge the Lordship of Christ” in all its laws, “abolish abortion,” outlaw marriage equality, and “recapture our national sovereignty from godless, global entities who present a grave threat to civilization.”

https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch...eportation
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Christian Jew-haters are back Ancient doctrine is fuelling new extremism

In the early hours of Saturday 10 January, the oldest synagogue in Mississippi was burned down. The suspected arsonist, Stephen Spencer Pittman, is only 19 years old; he now faces about that much time behind bars. He had a lot going for him. He was a good student and a good baseball player.

It should go without saying, too, that the attack was antisemitic in nature: Pittman has apparently admitted that he went after the synagogue for its “Jewish ties”.

Crucially, there is good reason to suspect a religious motive. Pittman is said to have referred to his target as “the synagogue of Satan”, a staple of Christian anti-Judaism going all the way back to the 4th-century homilies of John Chrysostom. On social media, he describes himself as a “follower of Christ”; when read out his rights he said, “Jesus Christ is Lord”. It would not be the first time, as it happens, for this synagogue to have been attacked in an act of terror by extremists of the Christian Right: in 1967, it was bombed by the Ku Klux Klan.

There is a powerful tendency to regard modern, racial antisemitism as a phenomenon fundamentally distinct from an earlier, religious anti-Judaism. This is seen most clearly in discussions of Nazism and the Holocaust. “Nazism owes nothing to any part of the Western tradition,” Hannah Arendt asserted: Auschwitz marked a total break from the course of Europe’s Christian civilisation.

The notion that the Nazis had nothing in common with the fanatical, Christian Jew-haters of earlier centuries is no longer tenable. There was no straightforward transition from “religious” to “racial” thinking: in fact anti-Judaism had already long had an important “racial” component. Jews were identified as a group in the Middle Ages not only on the grounds of their rejection of Christianity, but also by their immutable physical characteristics. A Jewish handbook, Sefer Nizzahon Yashan, written in Germany in the early 14th century, tells us how Christians would often taunt their Jewish neighbours by asking, “Why are most Gentiles fair-skinned and handsome while most Jews are dark and ugly?” Around the same time, Jews were already being depicted with hooked noses.

Moreover, modern racial antisemitism, epitomised by National Socialism, was more fundamentally religious — more Christian — than has often been supposed. An influential book by Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich, argued more than 20 years ago that there was a “religious dimension to Nazi antisemitism, which coexisted with and in some ways even informed the racist dimension”. Much of Nazi Christianity was built atop the fancy that Jesus had really been an Aryan. “I can imagine Christ as nothing other than blond and with blue eyes,” said Hitler in 1921; “the devil, however, only with a Jewish grimace.” Seeking to keep the SS from fracturing along religious lines, even the pagan Heinrich Himmler forbade “any attacks against Christ”, including the attack, “without doubt historically false”, that Christ had been a Jew.

In Michael: A German Destiny in Diary Form, Joseph Goebbels’s strange semi-autobiographical novel, the protagonist insists that “Christ is the genius of love, [and] as such the most diametrical opposite of Judaism, which is the incarnation of hate”. The Nazi struggle, thought Goebbels, was one “between Christ and Marx”, to be waged “until victory or the bitter end”.

The law of race did not need to contradict the revealed law of Christianity; race, after all, could be construed as an integral part of God’s Creation. “We, the racists, are the only ones who render to Christ the homage that is his due,” wrote the Nazi lawyer Herbert Meyer.

Christianity also played a part in the development of modern antisemitism closer to home. The British Union of Fascists had several churchmen in its ranks. George Henry Dymock, vicar of St Bede’s in Bristol, inveighed against the Jews in 1935 for engaging in “vile usury”. The Reverend M. Yate Allen, influenced perhaps by the religious declarations of Hitler’s top brass, thought that Nazi Germany was “truly on the side of Christ”. The newspaper British Fascism came up with a pithy formula in 1930: “There can be no true Fascism that is not Christian, for Fascism is military Christianity.” An earlier group produced a “Children’s Fascist Creed” in 1925, whose opening is unmistakably Nicene: “I am a Fascist. I believe in God, the Father Almighty, and in Jesus Christ His only Son Our Lord, and in the Holy Spirit…”

There is no reason whatsoever to believe that the “trad” Catholicism of Nick Fuentes and his ilk is anything other than sincerely felt. Indeed, it underpins everything they say and do. It is central to their entire narrative about the decadence of modern liberal, secular society — which, predictably, is imagined to have been engineered by the “perfidious Jews”.

Muslim antisemites, as Christopher Hitchens once put it, often “have to borrow — when they want to be anti-Jewish — the rubbish of medieval Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox antisemitism”; though Hitchens was quick to add that they equally possess a vigorous antisemitic tradition all their own.

There is, so to speak, a homegrown strain of antisemitism which is quickly gaining ground. If we are now witnessing a resurgence of antisemitism in the West, we should not be surprised to sometimes find it clad in its ancient, Christian garb.

https://unherd.com/2026/01/christian-jew...-are-back/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(January 25, 2026 at 12:45 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Baptists: "I don't care that an unarmed man got gunned down in the street."

Also Baptists: "Why are people leaving our churches in droves?"

Quote:'I Don't Care How Much They Scream': William Wolfe Backs Trump's Violent Deportation Operations

William Wolfe, who now runs the Center For Baptist Leadership, recently appeared on the "Give Me Liberty" program, hosted by Ryan Helfenbein of Liberty University's Standing For Freedom Center, to discuss the anti-ICE protests taking place in Minneapolis.

Wolfe praised the administration and was quick to remind everyone that mass deportations were a key plank in the GOP's 2024 platform and so they have no right to complain about the brutality of the operations.

"People are saying, 'I voted for Trump and I wanted illegals out, but I didn't vote for this,'" Wolfe declared. "Well, if you're a Republican, you voted for the biggest mass deportation in American history. You did vote for this and it's going to look like this and it's going to be ugly because if we win, we take this country back. And if we don't win on the ICE and the deportation, the left stays in power."

"We are citizens, but they are stealing our sovereignty unto themselves. Really, it's a foreign invasion of our country."

"I don't care how much they scream," Wolfe proclaimed. "I don't care how much they cry. I don't care how loud they protest. And I don't care how much it costs. And I don't care how many of my fellow American citizens who recklessly impede legitimate law enforcement operations suffer the consequences of their reckless actions—I'd hope it'd be zero; they need to knock it off. I don't care. I want my country back, whatever it takes, no matter how much it costs. And this is what we elected Donald Trump to do."

In addition to his work with the CBL, Wolfe has also served as a visiting fellow at OMB Director Russ Vought’s Center for Renewing America, which identified Christian nationalism as a priority for the Trump administration.

In 2023, Wolfe joined radical Christian nationalists Joel Webbon, Dusty Deevers, and others in drafting a document called “The Statement on Christian Nationalism and the Gospel,” which declared that the United States must formally “acknowledge the Lordship of Christ” in all its laws, “abolish abortion,” outlaw marriage equality, and “recapture our national sovereignty from godless, global entities who present a grave threat to civilization.”

https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch...eportation

Kind of ironic how many Christian groups put the word ‘freedom’ in their name when that’s clearly the LAST thing they want.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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