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Atheists who become Christians
#51
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 1:41 pm)Drich Wrote: It's not that you have to hit rock bottom before He comes. It's that you have to hit rock bottom before a cold and callous heart will reach out beyond the pride that is keeping you from seeing that He has been there all along.
Nice to know you think so highly of us all. I doubt very much there was a time when you didn't have your supernatural friend.
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#52
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Nope Wrote: I used to be a Christian. My faith was important to me and something that I took for granted. In my forties, I began to have serious doubts and nothing that I could do would stop those doubts. Actually, at one point in my life I would get down on my face and beg god not to harden my heart. Questioning was traumatic for me and not something I asked to do. Every night I read my bible and my doubts grew.

The final straw came when my adolescent, learning disabled son got his girlfriend pregnant. We had given them birth control because we knew that they were sexually active even though my son-for whatever reason- told us that he wasn't having sex. So yeah, I was disappointed in him and it was that disappointment that clicked something in my head. Never would I want my son to suffer because he upset me. There is nothing that he could do that would make me turn against him. He could try to kill me or hate me and I would still love him and want what was best for him. The god that I worshiped wanted people to go to a place of eternal misery because they didn't love him enough. He was supposed to be a parental figure and yet, I, the faulty human was a far better parent then he was.

At that point, I stopped believing and it stopped hurting that I didn't have belief any longer. So when Drich starts that nonsense about just believing I take offense.

Me, too. And I know of dozens of other ex-christians who would be equally offended.
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#53
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 11:11 am)Drich Wrote: I converted from atheism

Bullshit. You were always an idiot.
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#54
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 1:58 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Man is a spirit he lives in a body he understands with his soul. You can never understand the things of God with your mind they have to be understood with your heart (spirit). Man is not like other animals that are body only. Man is a spirit man and God like and eternal.

That just sounds like incoherent ramblings of someone that should be looked after by professionals. Either that or you do too much of the class A stuff.

Seriously, can you actually read back what you have just written and truly make sense of it?
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#55
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 1:58 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Man is not like other animals that are body only. Man is a spirit man and God like and eternal.

Wow, that's easily the most arrogant and uniformed piece of shit I had to read in a long time. You never had a pet obviously and you never bothered to inform yourself about modern research into animal minds.
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#56
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 2:17 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote:
(December 21, 2014 at 1:58 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Man is a spirit he lives in a body he understands with his soul. You can never understand the things of God with your mind they have to be understood with your heart (spirit). Man is not like other animals that are body only. Man is a spirit man and God like and eternal.

That just sounds like incoherent ramblings of someone that should be looked after by professionals. Either that or you do too much of the class A stuff.

Seriously, can you actually read back what you have just written and truly make sense of it?
It makes sense to me.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
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#57
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 2:22 pm)strawdawg Wrote: It makes sense to me.

A great many things usually do for those who do not rely upon logical intellect.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#58
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 21, 2014 at 2:22 pm)strawdawg Wrote: It makes sense to me.

That's the problem.
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#59
RE: Atheists who become Christians
Most people make snap decisions and form hasty beliefs with out researching the matter fully.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
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#60
RE: Atheists who become Christians
Hopefully this story belongs here. My best friend in high school started going to youth groups for a little while. I went with her a couple of times. But again, felt weird and uncomfortable in that environment.
She came and went.. but not too seriously. We were the partying types.
Then she married, had a child, divorced, re married. She had another child. I wasnt in touch with her much.
Then I heard her second child had serious birth defects. He didn't live long.
She started collecting angels.
Her mother committed suicide. More angels.
We don't share the same beliefs. She doesn't shove her religion down my throat.
She has done what SHE had to do to lessen the pain, I guess. Her seeing her family again in heaven trumps the fact her God took them away. (All for a reason, right? :rollseyesSmile

It was how she chose to cope. I don't agree with it, I don't think I would change my mind if I went through something so terrible. But I don't mock her.
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