I work for a church and I can't stand it any more.

[strawdawg]

Things change. Odds are you are young strong and healthy. That would make you very fortunate. Odds are you're of European descent. Let all that change and your view of things would more than likely change.

A view don't become more true just because it tends to be held statistically more frequently by the poor, desperate and uneducated.

I'll give you to understand I am educated. I have a PHD. Wait or is it a GED. They're the same. Lol

[robvalue]

What irks me about God?

If you mean Yahweh, it's the fact that he's the most evil character anyone could ever devise, yet he's being held up as the gold standard of morality.

If you mean Allah, I'm not as familiar with the kuran but I know it's still pretty bad. Their fake jesus is a mass murderer. And Allah is also made up, obviously.

As for all the others... How long have you got?

[Alex K]

A view don't become more true just because it tends to be held statistically more frequently by the poor, desperate and uneducated.

I'll give you to understand I am educated. I have a PHD. Wait or is it a GED. They're the same. Lol

You misunderstood, I didn't mean to question your education. I was referring to your argument here

Things change. Odds are you are young strong and healthy. That would make you very fortunate. Odds are you're of European descent. Let all that change and your view of things would more than likely change.

that (if I understood it correctly), the justification for atheism held by someone privileged is called into question because atheism is less prevalent in poor and desperate places. My point is that this is not a valid argument for or against atheism.


p.s. as far as I know a GED and a PHD are not the same

[robvalue]

If there is a God and he has any interest in having a relationship with me, he only has to come find me. He should know where I am.

If he expects me to go find a non existent needle in a haystack, then he can forget it.

[abaris]

If you mean Allah, I'm not as familiar with the kuran but I know it's still pretty bad. Their fake jesus is a mass murderer. And Allah is also made up, obviously.

Also Yahweh, only running a different franchise. His buddies Gabriel and Jesus kind of gave him away.

[robvalue]

Oh yeah, I forgot. Different puppet, same fictional hand.

It's all just a bit silly really isn't it? A bit like no one told you Santa isn't real so you still think he is?

And of course, if I found out Yahweh or Allah were real, I wouldnt worship them. Not if they're anything like in their books. I would tell them to piss off.

If it turned out to be a nice God, we could be friends. But I'm not worshipping anyone, it's ridiculous.

[strawdawg]

What irks me about God?

If you mean Yahweh, it's the fact that he's the most evil character anyone could ever devise, yet he's being held up as the gold standard of morality.

If you mean Allah, I'm not as familiar with the kuran but I know it's still pretty bad. Their fake jesus is a mass murderer. And Allah is also made up, obviously.

As for all the others... How long have you got?

You have a twisted view of religion. No doubt you're a product of what life has dealt you. If you're talking about health, I don't know. I take care of my self. I may be around a long time yet.

[robvalue]

A twisted view of religion? In fact I have a very good, objective view of religion. I can see it clearly for the sham it is.

A product of what life dealt me? What the hell is that meant to mean?

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I see you've resorted to just slagging me off then.

[Alex K]

You have a twisted view of religion. No doubt you're a product of what life has dealt you. If you're talking about health, I don't know. I take care of my self. I may be around a long time yet.

Yeah, the famous Catch-22 of religious apologists. If you're an atheist and you've had a pleasant life, they'll tell you that you will find God soon enough once you've suffered. If you're an atheist and you've had a hard life, you're just angry at God.

[strawdawg]

If you mean Allah, I'm not as familiar with the kuran but I know it's still pretty bad. Their fake jesus is a mass murderer. And Allah is also made up, obviously.

Also Yahweh, only running a different franchise. His buddies Gabriel and Jesus kind of gave him away.

Did you know the Jewish religion was a Polytheistic religion up until the time of Isiah? The scribes did some serious editing and it became monotheistic religion.

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Both you guys have good points, I give you an A. The trouble is you can not prove anything you're saying, neither can I so it's a draw.