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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 10, 2015 at 10:26 pm
Frodo loves his little strawmen.
Bill Maher's panel last night included Salman Rushdie, who has been on the business end of fatwas so he has some credibility. Possibly the 14 most critical moments of commentary ever.
Make sure to click for Part II for Rushdie's explanation of the "But Brigade."
Also note that dumb republicunt Carly Fiorina trying to excessively worry about 2 Americans getting beheaded...as if that is all that matters.
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 11, 2015 at 3:20 am
You're such an idiot PT. I'm going to have to hide your shame. So sorry.
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 11, 2015 at 3:35 am
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2015 at 3:37 am by robvalue.)
Frodo, you have got to be kidding me here.
Atheist superstition? Sure, some atheists may have some superstitions, but they are in no way are related to being atheist. That doesn't even make sense. I agree superstitions are generally a bad thing, but there is a sliding scale, with religion being right at the top of the worst.
Religion is superstition, it's based in "faith" which means choosing to arbitrarily believe things for which there is no evidence. There is no evidence that the bible is anything other than a book written by Iron Age war mongers and goat herders. Not a single reason to believe any of it is true, except the odd historical event, which still has to be independently confirmed and is usually not reported accurately in the bible. It's a ludicrous book of garbage. To believe it is "just true" is pure superstition. To believe that the character Yahweh is real is pure superstition. I know you have your arguments, but I'm sorry they are not even close to convincing, you just demonstrate that such a thing may not be impossible. Religion requires "faith", which is the epitome of superstition; literally believing stuff without evidence. If there was sufficient evidence, faith would not be required or even mentioned.
Your arguments are rationalizations for what you already believe. You already assume the bible is true, and so Yahweh exists, before you even talk about him and how he is consistent. Circular logic.
Sorry to have to bring the hammer down, but you really can't go trying to tu quoque an atheist with the superstition argument and try and share the blame. Religion is based almost entirely on superstition, atheism requires no such thing.
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 11, 2015 at 5:01 am
Atheism is to superstition what theism is to superstition.
Atheism is more prone in my experience simply because of the lack of controls. Religion addresses and dispels superstition. Irreligion is based upon superstition and fact equally.
Faith is never based upon no evidence. It is strictly based upon everything but material evidence. A different thing entirely. And purely logical. Nothing exists without proofs, yet your claims are exactly that. Baseless. Superstitious.
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 11, 2015 at 5:05 am
I can't even begin to address what you have written. You have abandoned all reason there my friend, sorry.
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 11, 2015 at 5:07 am
Not being able to present a point of view = lack of reasoning.
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 11, 2015 at 6:50 am
(January 11, 2015 at 2:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: (January 10, 2015 at 7:51 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: One of the silliest things you've written there, Frodo. What superstitious claim do I make?
What superstitious claims do theists make?
People of either persuasion are as likely to use spurious logic.
Ryan's post is obscene. No doubt about that.
Well specifically:
Catholics call on guidance from saints to find lost things and other things. All Christians tend to pray, what is this is not superstition.
And in general:
All the claims theists make are in my view superstitious.
Religion at its heart, is formalize superstition.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 11, 2015 at 6:51 am
Does anyone know if the last terrorist has been apprehended? A woman I believe.