Login

**robvalue** · January 9, 2015 at 12:48 pm

There's a difference between proof and good evidence. I would sincerely hope that you at least have good evidence before making important decisions in other areas. And for your wife, I'm sure there is plenty of evidence that she loves you. No one is asking for 100% proof of anything, science doesn't work like that.

**Spooky** · January 9, 2015 at 12:54 pm

Suppose I say that 》I 《 am god, and have the aviators and the compound in Guyana to prove it.

Can any theist here truly prove me wrong?

~~John V~~ · January 9, 2015 at 1:27 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 12:48 pm)robvalue Wrote: There's a difference between proof and good evidence. I would sincerely hope that you at least have good evidence before making important decisions in other areas. And for your wife, I'm sure there is plenty of evidence that she loves you. No one is asking for 100% proof of anything, science doesn't work like that.

People make important decisions without good evidence all the time. Heck, people make decisions like using recreational drugs in spite of evidence of harm.

People in general are more emotional than rational.

dyresand · January 9, 2015 at 1:47 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 1:27 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 12:48 pm)robvalue Wrote: There's a difference between proof and good evidence. I would sincerely hope that you at least have good evidence before making important decisions in other areas. And for your wife, I'm sure there is plenty of evidence that she loves you. No one is asking for 100% proof of anything, science doesn't work like that.
People make important decisions without good evidence all the time. Heck, people make decisions like using recreational drugs in spite of evidence of harm.

People in general are more emotional than rational.

There is a better chance of me being jesus.. xD

Jesus can walk on water
Watermelons are 84% water
I can walk on watermelons.
I am 84% Jesus.

Not convinced?

Jesus can walk on water
Cucumbers are 96% water
I can walk on cucumbers
I am 96% Jesus.

Still not convinced?

Jesus can walk on water
Ice is 100% water
I can walk on ice
I am 100% Jesus

Bam.

~~John V~~ · January 9, 2015 at 3:23 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 1:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: There is a better chance of me being jesus.. xD

Jesus can walk on water
Watermelons are 84% water
I can walk on watermelons.
I am 84% Jesus.

Not convinced?

Jesus can walk on water
Cucumbers are 96% water
I can walk on cucumbers
I am 96% Jesus.

Still not convinced?

Jesus can walk on water
Ice is 100% water
I can walk on ice
I am 100% Jesus

Bam.

See what I mean? He had nothing substantial to add, but needed emotionally to put in something.

**Spooky** · January 9, 2015 at 3:38 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 3:23 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 1:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: There is a better chance of me being jesus.. xD

Jesus can walk on water
Watermelons are 84% water
I can walk on watermelons.
I am 84% Jesus.

Not convinced?

Jesus can walk on water
Cucumbers are 96% water
I can walk on cucumbers
I am 96% Jesus.

Still not convinced?

Jesus can walk on water
Ice is 100% water
I can walk on ice
I am 100% Jesus

Bam.
See what I mean? He had nothing substantial to add, but needed emotionally to put in something.

Do you prefer pot or kettle?

dyresand · January 9, 2015 at 3:44 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 3:38 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 3:23 pm)alpha male Wrote: See what I mean? He had nothing substantial to add, but needed emotionally to put in something.

Do you prefer pot or kettle?

I'd prefer to be kettle cooked.

**robvalue** · January 9, 2015 at 3:45 pm

OK, people make decisions for bad reasons. I'm not disputing that. What's this got to do with anything? I'm really not sure what your point is. We don't make or test scientific claims while high on drugs.

~~John V~~ · January 9, 2015 at 4:04 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 3:45 pm)robvalue Wrote: OK, people make decisions for bad reasons. I'm not disputing that. What's this got to do with anything? I'm really not sure what your point is. We don't make or test scientific claims while high on drugs.

The point is that people hold beliefs and make decisions in a variety of areas for reasons other than scientific evidence. Therefore, it's unreasonable for you to assert that religious claims should be ignored because they don't lend themselves to scientific study.

**robvalue** · (This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 4:12 pm by robvalue.)

When did I say they should be ignored? This whole thread is asking someone to make a claim. You haven't made any for me to ignore.

I'm interested in finding out what is true. If that is not your interest, than that is fine. People believing things don't make them true, no matter how many people believe the same thing.

You keep giving other examples like love as if they cannot be tested, but they can indeed, in various ways.

We got as far as God is a supernatural being... And I asked what a supernatural being is, and I've not had an answer.

Login
Username:
Password:	Lost Password?
	Remember me

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread		Author	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Creator God Gets to Make the Rules	zwanzig	25	2813	August 6, 2023 at 3:59 pm Last Post: LinuxGal
	If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?	Silver	184	18986	September 10, 2021 at 4:20 pm Last Post: Dundee
	God can make infinitely more special/valuable things than this universe	blue grey brain	84	12241	December 17, 2018 at 7:15 pm Last Post: The Grand Nudger
	Why do some believers claim that all religions are just as good?	Der/die AtheistIn	22	4450	June 25, 2018 at 12:10 pm Last Post: Succubus
	What would you do if you found out God can't possibly exist?	Succubus	21	5402	October 7, 2017 at 8:26 am Last Post: Edwardo Piet
	If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new	Roeki	129	50516	July 9, 2017 at 2:11 am Last Post: Astonished
	If there are no gods, doesn't making one's self a god make one a theist?	Silver	13	4133	May 26, 2017 at 5:28 pm Last Post: TheoneandonlytrueGod
	What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?	Casca	62	8421	November 20, 2016 at 4:53 pm Last Post: Faith No More
	Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god	Blueyedlion	160	21536	June 5, 2016 at 6:07 am Last Post: robvalue
	Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused	Delicate	382	68428	November 3, 2015 at 11:12 am Last Post: drfuzzy