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Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
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Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
So I ventured into some white nationalist forums (that is equivalent to say fascist, neo-nazi, supremacist, aryan...) and I discovered some expected and unexpected things. I like digging into my my opponent's mind to figure out why they are like that.

WN will be used as an abbreviation for white nationalists

- WN rationalize their behaviour really well, and I mean really well, they are not particularly aggressive and hateful as I hoped, instead they constantly push out "studies, "facts" and "rational arguments" to justify their ideology, and they see WN and supremacy as a legitimate form of life. They are convinced to be right. Some of the following are reasons they use to justify it

- They constantly talk about chromosomes, genetics, ancestors and seem to have a vast knowledge on races, by being able to distinguish someone's potential jewish or arab or black genes by simply looking at the nose, or mouth, etc. They talk about this or that gene that ancestors had and was passed trough generations

- They believe Jews control the media and politics, and have an agenda to destroy white people with the argument of multiculturalism. They are a kind of [subtle] anti-semitism cult

- They deny or minimize the Holocaust constantly and point out "books" or "facts" to justify it. They also think Hitler's true person was hidden by the Jewish cults to control everything

- They think interracial marriage is a scam by corrupt Jewish and liberal media to erase whites, they constantly preach on how white women are pretty and how black men always want to marry white women and "steal them". They also think people who engage in interracial marriage are traitors to their cultures

- They think diversity and multiculturalism are evil and tools to destroy the white race in European and American countries, and use the number of immigrants as proof of that

- Speaking of immigrants, they think immigrants are the cause of all evil

- Some of them are obsessed with race and being white, to the point they'll make a genetic test to figure out if they have 2% jewish or arab or black blood. They also post pictures of people and rant if those people are really white or not, and there's disagreements between members (i.e. "That is not white, she has a jewish nose"; "that guy has a skin tone that resembles indians slightly, he must be at least 5% indian and is not white"). Many of them debate how white you must be to be considered white, most say 85% is ok but others think anything less than 95% white genes is not white

- They are largely homophobic, transphobic, anti-choice and anti-drugs, probably sexist meaning they support gender roles. They are also anti-Islam but usually Pro-Christianity because they love everything that can be considered "tradition"

- They declare themselves racial but not racist, which means they want to preserve their race and be proud of it without being criticized (The same way black people are not, for example) and they believe all people from are races are racial and should be able to abide by this principle. They constantly complain about racial double standards being evidence for that

- Most don't support racial genocide but rather sending everyone who isn't white back to Africa or south america and letting every race make their nation - White nations, black nations, indian nations. They support racial exclusive nations for every people and respect that as long as mixing doesn't exist

- They think being 1/16 Jewish is enough to consider someone evil

- They are not that anti-atheist, in fact some of them are atheists and don't care about religion

- They [obviously] love their nation above everything else and think the liberal media is to blame for the lack of nationalist parties and measures. In fact they believe nationalism is the biological natural state of politics if it wasn't for outside influence.

- They take great pride into being friends with people of other nations that are WN as well, for example WN from America respect WN from Europe and WN from Europe respect other WN from other European countries

- They think all stereotypes about other people that are not white are true and constantly post materials supposedly proving criminal acts from other races against whites and how white people are oppressed


Damn this is just a small fraction of ideas. These people are crazy, I entered there thinking I was white (I've always been) and now I'm convinced I'm probably half-jew or half-arab. Just thinking some retards once invited me to join the party because I was having an anti-Islam speech. Shock
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
You have more courage and patience then me.

I detest 'white pride' with a passion. First of all, most people who are white can trace their ancestry back to a specific European nation. For example, I know that a lot of my ancestors were from Ireland and a few branches were from other parts of the UK. It would be acceptable for me to celebrate my Irish heritage.

My best friend has ancestors from Eastern Europe. She looks pretty white to me. It would be acceptable for her to celebrate her ancestry also

What doesn't make sense is for either of us to act like there is some generic white culture that our forefathers shared.

The reason that we have generic 'black' pride is because of the racism that African Americans have suffered in this country. It is also impossible for most black people to discover exactly where there ancestors originated
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
Oh dear, you entered the zodiac mindwarp, Blackout. Did you use that screenname?

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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
(January 11, 2015 at 1:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Oh dear, you entered the zodiac mindwarp, Blackout. Did you use that screenname?

No I didn't even register myself. And if I did I wouldn't be careless enough to use this nickname. I use different nicknames for different places in the internet to avoid people knowing more than I want them to know about my personal life. The invite I got was in real life, not on the internet. The people who invited me are members of the nationalist party and they know well who I am, they were surprised when I said their nationalism and Christianity are as bullshit as Islam

Just lurking was enough, If these people ever get to power I'll flee. Many of them seem to be connected to the respective national parties in Europe like the French National Front.

Nope I agree, black pride or gay pride or women pride are forms of celebrating rights that were given, but I'm sure the reason is not black supremacy or gay supremacy or women supremacy, I think when we reach an equal level no one will bring more pride movements.

To be honest, I think it's ok to like your heritage and your country and culture, I like many things about being portuguese and portuguese people. I like some of our cultural habits such as how polite we are and I like our language. But I'd never take it into a level of making it the most important pillar in my life. That's just moronic
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
Yuck. I don't think I could face going to a forum like that. What filth.
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
I googled "white nationalism" and went to the SF website. What a bunch of vile, horrible people.
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
These WN types are such a bloody damned embarrassment. I've run into these aryan bozos from time to time over the decades. I really wish that they would go away. They really make it hard to feel good about being white. I really resent their ignorant posturing and pseudo-scientific babbling on why "Aryans" are superior to "Mud races" and "Semites" and why we should enact laws forbidding miscegenation, etc.

Of course, with me it's kind of personal. My wife is Latin, so to these bozos I qualify as a race traitor and our four kids are "mongrels" born of a union that never should have been allowed. Nothing like bringing it close to home to make it very plain just how poisonous hate-inspired thinking is.

I keep telling myself that we (by which I mean humanity in general) are better than this, and although I won't be here to see it, we will evolve culturally to where people will quit being blinded by such nonsense as "race", ethnicity, national origin or other inconsequential criteria. I have to believe that, or I'd have no reason to get up in the morning.
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
They have a theology forum on stormfront, including an atheism forum, but you need to register and ask permission to join. It's worth it just for the laughs though, because they have some proper nutjobs in there. Although I wouldn't expect to go in there all guns blazing because they'll just ban you, but you can have good fun winding up the Christians when they post on the atheist forum if you tell them Jesus was Jewish and Christianity is a Jewish religion.
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
(January 11, 2015 at 2:10 pm)Raven Wrote: These WN types are such a bloody damned embarrassment. I've run into these aryan bozos from time to time over the decades. I really wish that they would go away. They really make it hard to feel good about being white. I really resent their ignorant posturing and pseudo-scientific babbling on why "Aryans" are superior to "Mud races" and "Semites" and why we should enact laws forbidding miscegenation, etc.

Of course, with me it's kind of personal. My wife is Latin, so to these bozos I qualify as a race traitor and our four kids are "mongrels" born of a union that never should have been allowed. Nothing like bringing it close to home to make it very plain just how poisonous hate-inspired thinking is.

I keep telling myself that we (by which I mean humanity in general) are better than this, and although I won't be here to see it, we will evolve culturally to where people will quit being blinded by such nonsense as "race", ethnicity, national origin or other inconsequential criteria. I have to believe that, or I'd have no reason to get up in the morning.

My significant other is about 1/4 gypsy (for those who don't know gypsies are a nomad ethnic group more or less similar to Indians), an ethnic group that over Europe is seen as inferior by the vast majority of society - What we criticize is not their race but cultural habits that we disapprove - My girlfriend was adopted and she turned out to be pretty different from gypsies that are raised in a gypsy family. Regardless, according to these nutjobs she isn't a pure white, and the fact it's mixed with a non-white race is even worse; therefore I'm a traitor.(They somewhat are ok with white people from other countries mixing with other whites, as long as there isn't any non white involved)
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RE: Some interesting stuff I learned about [white] nationalists
Quote:No I didn't even register myself. And if I did I wouldn't be careless enough to use this nickname.


Why? They'd probably love that name. Appoint you fuhrer or something.

Subtlety is lost on those douchebags.
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