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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 12, 2015 at 6:40 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm)Nope Wrote: After reading a thread started by Drich, I realized that I have no idea who is a real/true Christians. You all my think that you are the real deal but be wrong. So, please tell me the requirements for being a Christian.
I'm a simple guy. If you believe Christ died on the cross for your sins, you're a Christian. All the rest of the shit is window-dressing.
I'd also like to add that the believers arguing "no true Christian" are in essence damning other Christians with their judgement, and thereby stepping into their god's province. It takes an awful lot of arrogance to do that.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 12, 2015 at 6:49 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 6:40 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (January 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm)Nope Wrote: After reading a thread started by Drich, I realized that I have no idea who is a real/true Christians. You all my think that you are the real deal but be wrong. So, please tell me the requirements for being a Christian.
I'm a simple guy. If you believe Christ died on the cross for your sins, you're a Christian. All the rest of the shit is window-dressing.
I'd also like to add that the believers arguing "no true Christian" are in essence damning other Christians with their judgement, and thereby stepping into their god's province. It takes an awful lot of arrogance to do that.
Actually - there are Thousands of different religions in which a "christ" is considered one of or the god - and belief in any one of them qualifies you to be a "christian". THat is the problem with xtianity - no matter what you believe - you can find some "church" who is willing to take your money. There is NO set belief or set of beliefs other than a "title" - which "christ" is - not a name.
Since it is unquestionably absolutely true that there was NO such person named Jesus Christ who lived in the time between 6 BCE and 35 CE - you can make all the rest of the story up too.
And they do - down to the point of using Olde English pronunciation of the bible as being required - even when english did not exist at that time.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 12, 2015 at 6:52 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Nope Wrote: Lol
The mythological Jewish savior myth that was hijacked by Christians and combined with several other first century religions
True.
The hijack is confirmed pretty well by the number of hits you get on youtube with the search phrase, "rabbi jesus not the messiah."
You get less official but more entertaining hits with the phrase, "lewis black jesus not the messiah."
Quote:If you want to truly understand the Old Testament. If there's something you don't get. There are Jews who walk among you and they, I promise you this, will take time out of their very Jewy, Jewy day, to interpret for you anything you're having trouble understanding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seuCWDSi8WQ
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 12, 2015 at 7:41 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 7:42 pm by Brian37.)
I love Luis Black and I know it is stand up, and certainly still funny, but Jews don't get a pass either. The OT God is still a dictator, no matter how much he wants to paint him as simply a parent trying to get his children to behave. This God was still not elected to his position, he cannot be removed, and the OT violence goes way beyond merely arrest and trial. It still talks about slavery, and how girls and women are to be treated and paints them as property, not equals.
And even with modern Jews you have differences, liberal Jews do not side with the Orthodox Jews even if they support Netenyahu. And younger Jews in the west especially don't always side with Israel's tactics to the same degree as their parents.
On top of Yahweh coming from the Canaanite polytheism prior.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 12, 2015 at 7:54 pm
"You shall know them by their fruits." And as we all know, every group of people includes one or more fruits.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 12, 2015 at 9:05 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 7:54 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: "You shall know them by their fruits." And as we all know, every group of people includes one or more fruits.
Fabulous.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 13, 2015 at 12:57 am
(January 12, 2015 at 6:49 pm)ThomM Wrote: (January 12, 2015 at 6:40 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I'm a simple guy. If you believe Christ died on the cross for your sins, you're a Christian. All the rest of the shit is window-dressing.
I'd also like to add that the believers arguing "no true Christian" are in essence damning other Christians with their judgement, and thereby stepping into their god's province. It takes an awful lot of arrogance to do that.
Actually - there are Thousands of different religions in which a "christ" is considered one of or the god - and belief in any one of them qualifies you to be a "christian". THat is the problem with xtianity - no matter what you believe - you can find some "church" who is willing to take your money. There is NO set belief or set of beliefs other than a "title" - which "christ" is - not a name.
Since it is unquestionably absolutely true that there was NO such person named Jesus Christ who lived in the time between 6 BCE and 35 CE - you can make all the rest of the story up too.
And they do - down to the point of using Olde English pronunciation of the bible as being required - even when english did not exist at that time.
Ma zactly. Where there's a dollar to be made, there's a story to be told.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 13, 2015 at 1:00 am
True christians or not it doesn't matter. You believe in god good and jesus you are a fucking Christian argument over. Hell even mormons are christians well space christians.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 13, 2015 at 5:03 am
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As far as I can see, the only meaningful criteria that is required to call someone a christian is that they say they are a Christian.
The only criteria required to call yourself a true christian is that you call yourself a true christian.
If you say your imaginary pet octopus is called Keith and lives in wonder land, I'm not going argue with you.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 13, 2015 at 5:15 am
Where the hell is YahwehIsTheWay when you need him?
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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