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New abortion ban proposal in the US (Indiana)
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New abortion ban proposal in the US (Indiana)
Quote:A state lawmaker has filed a bill that would ban a physician from performing an abortion if the provider knows the pregnant woman is seeking to terminate the pregnancy due to the sex of the fetus or because of a diagnosis of Down syndrome or any other disability.

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/0...rtion-ban/

Quote:Eight states have enacted laws prohibiting sex-selective abortion and twenty-one states and the federal government have considered such laws since 2009

https://ihrclinic.uchicago.edu/page/repl...ted-states

More bullshit
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RE: New abortion ban proposal in the US (Indiana)
"We think people should be forced to finish their pregnancy, whether they want to or not, and then spend 18 years looking after the unwanted child or surrender it into the trauma of the adoption system."
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I am all for abortion, my mother had two, if its good enough for her then its good enough for me.
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Although I don't think the government should have the power to dictate anything about reproduction, I have to say that I find the idea of gender-driven abortion sad. I don't have any hard-and-fast rational view of it. It just strikes me as defining gender more important than personal potential.

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I agree, when things get down to that level, you have to wonder about the parents and their commitment. To some degree, you have to be prepared for anything. If you're not, you shouldn't be doing it. But the world is full of shit parents that can't be stopped anyhow, short of serious abuse of children.
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(January 15, 2015 at 4:14 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Although I don't think the government should have the power to dictate anything about reproduction, I have to say that I find the idea of gender-driven abortion sad. I don't have any hard-and-fast rational view of it. It just strikes me as defining gender more important than personal potential.

The thing is that this affects more countries like India or China because people want to have boys only, so it has a patriarchal idea behind. In the western world I don't really think it is that big of a problem.
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RE: New abortion ban proposal in the US (Indiana)
(January 15, 2015 at 4:14 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Although I don't think the government should have the power to dictate anything about reproduction, I have to say that I find the idea of gender-driven abortion sad. I don't have any hard-and-fast rational view of it. It just strikes me as defining gender more important than personal potential.

Above all else it's stupid.

I mean, yeah I get why, some of these families want males who will "carry on the family line". They seem to forget though, a shortage of females makes that kind of impossible to do. Stupid logic.

Oh well I guess more males will have to be gay, which I'm not complaining about hehe
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Gender driven abortion banning, I get. Down Syndrome and other disabilities I don't. Not everyone can be Hellen Keller.
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(January 16, 2015 at 8:56 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Gender driven abortion banning, I get. Down Syndrome and other disabilities I don't. Not everyone can be Hellen Keller.
Still it is a bit idiotic, no one has the right to ask a pregnant woman why she is having an abortion... It could be for a thousand reasons, and not everyone is comfortable talking about it. We don't have a right to question pregnant women if their abortion is gender driven, and even if we did anyway, there's no guarantee she won't lie.
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Personally I'd rather no one have an abortion unless it will kill them, or the kid is going to have severe defects, but I'd also like adoption and foster care agencies to be a lot better. If conservatives want to rail against abortions, why do I hear about adoption and foster care being so crap? They should be funneling money into programs that take care of single mothers, poor families, and orphaned children, but there's some hipocracy going on.
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http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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