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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 1:54 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 10:11 am)jesus_wept Wrote: To be fair I did say I thought they were insane before you quote mined me. I'm not endorsing them, I'm just saying that I find them more admirable than the typical keyboard warrior or cafeteria Christian you come across, or even a pope sitting behind his bulletproof glass. My point wasn't to say that you were wrong, just to show how the ease with which the Bible can be interpreted makes a wide range of approaches 'valid.' The people who play with poisonous serpents may seem more devout under one interpretation, and less devout under another.
Quote:And I think the snake verses can be found in Mark and Luke btw, not anything written by Paul but I could be wrong. edit: I was wrong, they're in Mark, Luke and Paul. I really should google things I'm not sure about before posting on the internet.
I was actually thinking about the one in Mark, so that was my mistake.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 2:57 pm
Desperate idiots trying to justify their religious beliefs and occasionally dying for it.
Darwin Awards waiting to happen.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 3:04 pm
(January 23, 2015 at 10:31 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: That's a clear case of lackitudinal faith. If he'd prayed harder, believered more, he'da been able to save that thur finger. And from what I know about that religion, that is exactly what they believe. Their belief is a test of death.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 5:25 pm
I wish snake handling were more mainstream.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 6:24 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 5:25 pm)Spooky Wrote: I wish snake handling were more mainstream.
You got to be like this guy first.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 6:26 pm
Me too.
And even if there is the occasional problem with a faltering of faith, a nearby True Christian can correct the situation with a simple laying on of the hands.
We can note True Christians by this characteristic too. Probably handy to keep a couple around the congregation at all times.
If there is a true need of a healing (and the True Christian was not party to setting up the situation) then you would have a case that is not a test of God, so that objection while perhaps applicable to the deadly serpent molester, would not apply to a True Christian in regards to a sudden need for a healing.
I'm thinking a 3 year old child in the back of the church with failing grades in Sunday School, and therefore unSaved at this point, set upon by a wayward serpent no one else noticed had gone vagabond, would not be a test of God kind of situation. How could the responsible parents be expected to anticipate a deadly serpent making it all the way to the back of the church in the first place ??
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 6:31 pm
(January 24, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (January 24, 2015 at 2:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Second Timothy 3:16
Exactly,
"They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;'
In other words, if you happen to get bitten by accident, like Paul did for example, that scripture applies. But the Bible also clearly states not to "test" God.
Right. And why is that?
Oh, yeah.... like all superstitious twits.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 8:12 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 6:24 pm)dyresand Wrote: (January 25, 2015 at 5:25 pm)Spooky Wrote: I wish snake handling were more mainstream.
You got to be like this guy first.
What the hell! That guy is nuts.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 8:38 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 8:12 pm)Spooky Wrote: (January 25, 2015 at 6:24 pm)dyresand Wrote: You got to be like this guy first.
What the hell! That guy is nuts.
Exactly if theists snake handlers cannot do that they cannot handle snakes.
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RE: Snake Salvation
January 25, 2015 at 9:32 pm
And to reiterate, folks claiming Christianity that aren't Literalist and Inerrantist are apostates.
This is another one of those Religion 101 moments. Everybody otta know shit like this, it should be drummed into their empty little juvenile Sunday School attending heads long ago. It's an outrage we have adults running around, claiming Christian affiliation, and not knowing basic tenets of their faith.
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