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RE: how old were you
January 24, 2015 at 10:22 pm
Like a lot of you, I've never known a time when I wasn't a nonbeliever. My parents brought me up to know my own mind and expand my learning, particularly in my interest in astronomy; which means I look out and see the grandeur of the Universe... never the heavens. Growing up in the 70s helped considerably, I'm sure - the likes of real Doctor Who and The Goodies offered a rich and fertile playground for my imagination to examine no end of concepts.
It's only in the last decade or so, after I got my grubby little paws on the internet, that I've 'come out' officially as atheist.
No, I've never been taken in by any god bollocks, even when the world had meaning. I'm fucked if I'm going to start now.
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RE: how old were you
January 24, 2015 at 10:36 pm
I had the authoritarian parents. I went to church up to 3x a week up until I was 16. I never remember believing. I do remember, however, having a sense for what adults wanted to hear, so I was good at faking it. I kept that shit up until I was in college. I remember (with shame now) sending my mom an email filled with stuff from the Da Vinci Code explaining that I am an atheist. I wish I could recover that email. I sent it from my Naval Academy email address. Oh, were it possible to recover that fucking email!
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RE: how old were you
January 24, 2015 at 10:58 pm
I was 16 and it wasn't as good as they say it is...
Oh you mean, when I became an Atheist? I was 17 and it was much better than they said it was.
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RE: how old were you
January 25, 2015 at 10:46 am
Somewhere around 14 or so I started having really serious problems with it and stopped with the Christian thing. I tried again around 19 or 20 for a short time, but finally admitted I was an atheist when I was 20 or 21.
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RE: how old were you
January 25, 2015 at 1:55 pm
(January 24, 2015 at 5:45 am)jackson Wrote: What age were you when God stopped making any sense?
Probably my mid/late 20s, though it took another 12-15 years before I finally gave up and admitted it just couldn't be salvaged.
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RE: how old were you
January 25, 2015 at 2:01 pm
8. Though I stopped believing, or trying to believe, at 13
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: how old were you
January 25, 2015 at 3:11 pm
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I do not remember ever believing in a god. I remember being baptized at 5, but with no concept of god or why that guy was pouring water on me. At 7, when I was confirmed, I was reciting the god stories, but again with no concept. By the time I was able to envision god, I had already dismissed Santa and friends and even understood magicians do not do magic, so why god? I never accepted this vision or possibility. It was obvious, later in life, that whatever would allow a god to exist could just as easily allow a universe to exist, ergo, no need for god then, no need for god now.
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