What a bloody stupid system, it's worse than I thought. Get saved then go on a 90 year murder rampage and still get a cheap seat in heaven. Now that's morality.
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You CAN game Christian morality
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 (February 25, 2015 at 10:47 am)robvalue Wrote: What a bloody stupid system, it's worse than I thought. Get saved then go on a 90 year murder rampage and still get a cheap seat in heaven. Now that's morality. I anticipate a response along the lines of "but you wouldn't do that if you were saved", but that has no bearing on whether or not you can. And so far as I can tell, it's just an assertion that isn't backed by anything other than a desire to not let all the Hitlers into heaven. Most Christians see the problem with that, even if their system doesn't. 
Yep -- that card has already been played in this thread, too.
When combined with the Biblical assertion that all men are sinners, the only logical conclusion is that there are no truly saved Christians.  RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 25, 2015 at 3:59 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2015 at 4:00 pm by robvalue.)
Yeah... always I am told that we will sin. So to then say we won't sin after we're saved... bleh. What a tangled mess of nonsense.
I don't give a monkeys crunchy nut about "sin" anyway. Why should I worry about upsetting someone who, if he exists, should really be able to handle it with all his power and what-not. Is little baby god sad? Diddums.  If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists... and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible... would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?  RE: You CAN game Christian morality
March 4, 2015 at 6:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2015 at 6:53 pm by Ravenshire.)
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(March 4, 2015 at 4:48 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: If that is your standard of moral responsibility, then every wrong that your child does you are morally responsible for. After all you could have prevented it. The obvious difference, which you've obviously missed, is that none of the humans in your analogy possess the omnipotence your god is alleged to have. I'll invite you to rethink this post, and perhaps come back with something a little more in line with the relative attributes accorded the parties being discussed. So long as you insist on treating men as gods, you must abandon your god's ability to judge men. And so long as you insist on equating your infallible god with fallible men, you must desist urging others to worship such an unworthy deity. (March 4, 2015 at 4:48 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: The scripture is true, your understanding of it is not. Well, what's holding your tongue? Speak for Jesus, already. No, you're quiet because you know that there is no way you can explicate that verse without acknowledging the point that your religion inculcates self-loathing. Am I wrong? You tell me. But -- get this -- you actually have to explain why. I think I understand that verse perfectly well. You must hate everything about life in order to gain heaven. "Everything" includes yourself.
Well the Holy Spirit is probably the weak spot out of the trinity. God is a man in the sky, jesus is a man, and the Holy Spirit is... Something, don't ask questions! Don't attack the Holy Spirit!
Well I just fucked the Holy Spirit so hard I filled I up with my spirit. How many hell points do I have now? Is this how real life works? It feels far more like nothing is happening at all. If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists... and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible... would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?  (March 4, 2015 at 4:48 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Now that I [somewhat] agree with. But there is a difference between loathing one part of yourself and loathing your entire self. For me, your nature is your self. If you loathe your nature that much, what part exactly is left of you that you do not loathe? |
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