(March 18, 2015 at 11:09 am)Harris Wrote:That I don't accept your assertion that there is one.(March 14, 2015 at 4:46 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: You do know that most of us do not make the claim "there is no god." don't you?
If you are not making a claim “there is no god” then what are you claiming as being atheist?
"I don't believe in..." is not the same as "There is no..."
Or is that to much for your feeble little mind to handle?!?
(March 18, 2015 at 11:09 am)Harris Wrote:William Lane Craig is a snake oil salesman, nothing more, nothing less.(March 14, 2015 at 4:46 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: William Lane Craig?!? Fucking really? That fraud is the best you can counter with? What's his degree in again? Bring an honest to reason theoretical physicist to the table, then we'll talk. Until then, I'm going to just point and laugh.
I am not a fan of WLC but in his commentary on the book “A Universe From Nothing,” he has raised some strong logical points and you should listen to that.
(March 18, 2015 at 11:09 am)Harris Wrote: I found some contradicting statements in Krauss’ book “A Universe From Nothing.”You're quote mining lines from separate chapters then claiming they're contradictory. Interesting, but irrelevant.
“… our current understanding of the universe, its past, and its future make it more plausible that "something" can arise out of nothing without the need for any divine guidance.”
Chapter 9
Nothing Is Something
A Universe from Nothing
Lawrence Krauss
“A similar argument suggests that one can imagine one specific type of universe that might spontaneously appear and need not disappear almost immediately thereafter because of the constraints of the Uncertainty Principle and energy conservation. Namely, a compact universe with ZERO TOTAL ENERGY.
Now, I would like nothing better than to suggest that this is precisely the universe we live in.”
Chapter 10
Nothing Is Unstable
A Universe from Nothing
Lawrence Krauss
“I refer here to the multiverse. The possibility that our universe is one of a large, even possibly infinite set of distinct and causally separated universes, in each of which any number of fundamental aspects of physical reality may be different, opens up a vast new possibility for understanding our existence”
CHAPTER 11
BRAVE NEW WORLDS
A UNIVERSE FROM NOTHING
Lawrence Krauss
I want to know, why would we ever refer to an infinite number of universes, governed by the principles of string theory, as a Nothing or having Zero Energy?
(March 18, 2015 at 11:09 am)Harris Wrote: Krauss is not a philosopher and perhaps cannot make distinction between “Absolute Nothingness” that is no space, no time, no matter, no equations, no anything that human mind can conceive and “Vacuum” which is the absence of matter yet it has properties.Perhaps you have an example of this "Absolute Nothingness" stuff. As it has never been observed in nature, I doubt it.
(March 18, 2015 at 11:09 am)Harris Wrote: If Krauss is saying that Quantum Vacuum is not “nothing” then he is trying to prove, Quantum Vacuum is eternal. If so, did he propose any reasonable theory for that?Perhaps you shouldn't put words in people's mouths then expect a theory to support them.
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