The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This

[Lek]

OK. Well, there's not much more I can say then. I hope your faith makes you happy If you are interested in a frank discussion about it in the future, I'll be happy to oblige.

Appreciate it. I'm sure we'll butt heads again.

[robvalue]

I know that you take what I say seriously, and that makes conversation with you so much more worthwhile than with most other theists. I'm getting to the point where I can barely be bothered replying to most of them now, I'm sad to say. I may as well talk to a magic 8 ball.

I'd love to have meaningful discussion with all of them, but they make it impossible

[Ravenshire]

Hey, Huggies. Are you ever going to address this?!?

At least you acknowledge it as a theory.

I know you'll ignore this as you've ignored everything else I've said that you've been unable to refute, but I'll try anyway...

Scientific theories are not (as you faithers would have us believe) on par with guessing. "But, it's just a theory!!!1!11!!!"

No, a scientific theory is the framework upon which the facts pertaining to said theory are hung.

Gravity is a fact.
Germs that spread disease are a fact.
Evolution is a fact.

Gravitational theory is how we explain our understating of how gravity works.
Germ theory is how we explain our understating of how germs spread disease.
Evolutionary theory is how we explain our understating of how evolution works.

Please stop using the word theory in a scientific context as if it means "wild assed guess." It makes you look so incredibly ignorant that many will refuse to take you seriously.

Or, are you so stupid that you put germ theory and gravitational theory on the same "it's just a wild assed guess" level as you do evolutionary theory?!?

Or this?

It clearly states that each animal is to be brought forth after their kind (species)

The Bible supports evolution, just not the idea that all creatures evolved from a single point.

The buy-bull also puts bats with the birds.

[IATIA]

Are you saying that all eye witness testimony is true?

I saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear. Should I write a bible and declare David, god? After all, I am an eyewitness to a miracle.

[The Reality Salesman01]

Are you saying that all eye witness testimony is true?

I saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear. Should I write a bible and declare David, god? After all, I am an eyewitness to a miracle.

I'm just went through the records, and yes. According to history, that's exactly what you should do. You could make a killing too! Look at those Mormons? Some idiots will believe anything!

[Thumpalumpacus]

If it was proven that the authors of the gospels were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, would you then believe the christian message?

No. You'd have to demonstrate the existence of your god, and his avatar in Jesus being resurrected.

[Huggy Bear]

[FatAndFaithless]

So yet again..Huggy uses definitions and ideas that are not part of the theory of evolution to ask for an example of something that wouldn't be evolution...in order to disprove evolution.

[The Reality Salesman01]

If it was proven that the authors of the gospels were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, would you then believe the christian message?

No. You'd have to demonstrate the existence of your god, and his avatar in Jesus being resurrected.

If you showed me ANY person that was publicly slaughtered in the way Jesus was alleged to have been killed...stuck them in the ground for a few days, and then let me see his reanimated course pop out of the ground, walk around and talk to people, and then magically float into outer space, I'd give you and your tales a little more latitude.

[Esquilax]