Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: January 8, 2025, 5:19 pm
Thread Rating:
|
Prove god exists.
|
 (March 15, 2015 at 11:27 pm)Lek Wrote: Scientifically, we don't know the how.Yet. (March 15, 2015 at 11:27 pm)Lek Wrote: How has science made God an less necessary?Every time we determine the actual cause of something that was ascribed to gawd, we make it a little less necessary.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
  (March 15, 2015 at 11:33 pm)Lek Wrote:(March 15, 2015 at 9:13 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Can you demonstrate this? The Big Bang was an expansion, not an explosion. But that doesn't even address the point you were making about purpose. Please connect the dots for me. How does the existence of the Universe evidences purpose?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 RE: Prove god exists.
March 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2015 at 11:55 pm by Chad32.)
(March 15, 2015 at 11:36 pm)Lek Wrote:(March 15, 2015 at 11:31 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The more we know, the less we see of gods, and the fewer gaps you can put your god in. Even if you send him back to the beginning of the universe, it will only get you as far as deism. It doesn't help the case for theism. Judging from your religious views, you seem to believe in a specific, personal god. Not just some thing that created the universe then either left or sat back and watched. Even though these are both god concepts, they're very different. Discovering why an eclipse occurs tells us this isn't some supernatural event. It's just the moon or the world getting in the other's way to block the sun. What is necessary about a deity when everything we've ever had a proven explanation for has been explained naturally?
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html RE: Prove god exists.
March 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2015 at 11:57 pm by Lek.)
(March 15, 2015 at 11:38 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(March 15, 2015 at 11:33 pm)Lek Wrote: When a bomb explodes stuff just goes flying everywhere haphazardly. When the big bang occurred it formed our well-ordered universe. The order in the universe shows that it was created with a purpose. God caused it to be an orderly creation, for his purposes, rather than a haphazard expansion, which is what would otherwise be expected. (March 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Judging from your religious views, you seem to believe in a specific, personal god. Not just some thing that created the universe then either left or sat back and watched. Even though these are both god concepts, they're very different. The title of this thread is "Prove God exists". My purpose is to prove God exists, not to argue whether my concept or a deist's concept is the correct concept of God. If God exists, he is who he is, no matter what my or someone else's concept of him is. (March 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm)Lek Wrote: The order in the universe shows that it was created with a purpose. God caused it to be an orderly creation, for his purposes, rather than a haphazard expansion, which is what would otherwise be expected. How does it show this?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: Prove god exists.
March 16, 2015 at 12:33 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2015 at 12:34 am by Ravenshire.)
(March 15, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Lek Wrote:(March 15, 2015 at 11:33 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Every time we determine the actual cause of something that was ascribed to gawd, we make it a little less necessary. Gawd used to be necessary to explain lightning. Hell, he used to be necessaey to explain the eclipse you point out. Discovering how the universe works removes the need for a supernatural explanation one step at a time. After a certain threshold it becomes quite reasonable to assume that if gawd isn't necessary for this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this, then he probably isn't necessary for that either. Lek, why don't you try reading some science books instead of accepting whatever your holy shaman spoon feeds you? You've shown you're not a insanely close-minded in your beliefs by changing your stance on evolution. Take a good long hard look at cosmology next. I'd recommend this one to start with: Lawrence M. Krauss - A Universe From Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing (March 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm)Lek Wrote: My purpose is to prove God exists Without any evidence for it's existence, you've got a long row to hoe.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
 RE: Prove god exists.
March 16, 2015 at 12:44 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2015 at 12:44 am by Pizza.)
I don't know if that criticism about explanations works. Is Lek making an argument from the best explanation?
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot
We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal |
|
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
|
Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)
