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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 7, 2015 at 10:58 pm
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(March 7, 2015 at 9:53 am)vorlon13 Wrote: (March 7, 2015 at 4:19 am)Godschild Wrote: No, you have trouble listening, billions have had no trouble hearing.
GC
The Bible is literally the truth of God and the instruction of redemption and a free life in Christ.
GC
I like the being instructed part where dashing little children against stones is mentioned. I suppose that fits in to redemption somehow and someone will be along shortly to explain it.
Hey dummy, consider reading the passage and see who is speaking before assigning blame, you are just showing how inept you are at arguing the scriptures. You probably don't know where to find the verses do you.
GC
(March 7, 2015 at 10:26 am)Dystopia Wrote: @GC, thanks for your response, it was short and precise, exactly what I was looking for.
Since you believe the bible is the literal truth revealed by god and god's followers then - Would you do something terrible or deeply violent as long as the bible commanded you to do it?
The Bible is a guide to life not death, even hell is taught as a place to avoid, punishment for anyone could be avoided if one would look for the real life through the scriptures.
The Bible is a guide to living a life to serve and help others, not to hurt or destroy, scriptures aide in guiding one to a life that is humble and considerate to those around us. Few Christians ever attain these things to a high level and even those that do need God's grace to sustain them.
So, I need not worry about being instructed to be bad, simply because the Bible teaches the opposite.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 7, 2015 at 11:10 pm
(March 7, 2015 at 10:31 pm)Drich Wrote: The book simply does not claim perfection. It does not say it is imperfect, just like it does not say it is perfect. It simply claims to be truth and all you need to find and maintain a relationship with God.
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not perfect. Just truth, complete, just enough to provide believers a path to Find Him.
At the same time give the doubt needed to sustain pride and disbelief.
He did.
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Where all of your logic fails is that you believe because God is perfect He MUST produce a perfect book.
Again why would He do that if His goal was to foster choice? What choice would you all have if the Bible was perfect as God was Perfect. As things are their is enough doubt built into Scripture for those who do not want to believe in it the freedom to doubt it. Wow, you guys never cease to amaze me. I have to admit that is a very creative solution to the problems in the Bible.
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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 7, 2015 at 11:10 pm
Nothing is perfect, not even science, but at least science admits that.
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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 7, 2015 at 11:23 pm
I don't know, G-C. I think you are full of shit, as usual...
Quote:9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.
15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.
16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
that is, unless you think "Isaiah" was threatening to do all that shit on his own hook....in which case he would be as fucking crazy as you are.
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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 10, 2015 at 11:54 am
Min, that chapter of Isaiah was a prophecy containing two elements, it describes what He will do on the Day of the Lord which is yet ahead.
It describes what people are going do to one another on that day.
All the evil you guys object to (and rightly so) is going to be dealt with.
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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 10, 2015 at 11:57 am
That's all fine and dandy Prof, what about the people suffering now?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 10, 2015 at 12:01 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 11:57 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: That's all fine and dandy Prof, what about the people suffering now?
They're just extras in the Great Cosmic Drama that Professor and other Christians think they co-star in, along with their magic Celestial Rabbi.
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RE: Is the bible all perfect?
March 10, 2015 at 12:28 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 11:57 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: That's all fine and dandy Prof, what about the people suffering now?
You know that old christian saying god helps those who help themselves.
But in this case people are attempting to help themselves and god just doesn't give a fuck.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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