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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 10, 2015 at 11:19 pm
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Is God a fact? No God's a personal being and not a proposition. Doesn't exist then by Drewian razor.
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 11, 2015 at 2:31 am
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Here's the nearest thing to a "proof" that God does not exist that I have.
If you ask any individual theist, you'll find God agrees with them on almost everything. This is true of at least a large number of theists.
Theists disagree massively on what they "know" God thinks and wants.
Simplest explanation: God exists only in the mind of theists.
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 11, 2015 at 10:46 am
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Of course your consciousness itself exists 'only' in your head. If your sense of God were as robust as your sense of self, that would make God a fairly significant entity in your subjective experience.
That wouldn't mean you'd be justified to make the outrageous theist claims regarding cosmological creation and an afterlife. But you could coherently claim that this 'god' created 'you' in the sense of who you are and created/creates the world of your experience. If only the vast majority of theists were not so brashly immodest in their claims we might have very different relationship with them. Sadly the last thing most xtians ever are is humble.
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 11, 2015 at 3:44 pm
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 11, 2015 at 8:37 pm
"...even those who call themselves atheists won’t opine that God doesn’t exist"
There's no need to opine that gods don't exist.
1. there's no proof that gods exist (otherwise we'd all be theists)
2. there's no proof that gods don't exist (they might be lurking around a mountain-top somewhere)
3. gods are unnecessary, and postulating their existence explains nothing (it merely explains everything away)
4. therefore i have no gods (i'm an agnostic atheist)
Gnostic theists need atheists to make the direct claim that gods don't exist, as the atheist then incurs a burden of proof... but why do that when there is no need to do so? Atheists aren't here to be convenient for theists, and unnecessarily incurring such a burden simply allows gnostic theists to mask their own inability to carry the burden of proof for their own claims.
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 12, 2015 at 12:15 am
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 12, 2015 at 1:53 am
Irony? The OP makes some great arguments for atheism, but isn't one.
THAT is the reason why more people aren't atheists, not because we make bad arguments or aren't convincing, but because most theists dismiss the arguments with personal feelings. There isn't anything we can do about that.
But he's wrong that atheism isn't growing. If people lose their belief in god(s), they are then atheists, regardless of what they call themselves. And those numbers ARE growing...hugely. It's one of the main reasons I think Abrahamic theists are kind of freaking out at us.
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 12, 2015 at 1:57 am
I can imagine a lot of this happening now and soon:
"Oh, is that all atheism means? Yeah I suppose that's me!"
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RE: If I were an Atheist
April 12, 2015 at 9:33 pm
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i always wonder why religious assholes bother creating accounts on atheist forums.. nobody gives a shit about their worthless and ignorant opinion.
believe in a god all you want, just don't spread it over people's faces.
Humans really ARE pathetic creatures, just because your fat greasy believer brain cannot grasp how our reality and universe was created doesn't mean you can attribute it to a stupid god, that is just lazy and a pathetic excuse not to think , or search for scientfic and realistic answers.
Simple and easy, no shitty human will EVER be able to tell how the universe was created, it's just a fact that there are no gods, magic, supernatural, or anything of the sort in this existence, history proves that, it baffles me how humans can be so arrogant to the point of believing that shitty humans with a limited brain capacity have the answer as to how EVERYTHING came to be, Oh, big bang, oh, etc etc, NO, shut your filthy mouth humans.
Humans are nothing but parasites sucking and indulging on earth's resources, humans will soon be dead and finally the world will be free.
Death to all Humans.
Movement Free earth from Humanoid fetid and pathetic creatures.
