Is it possible to maintain and respect cultural heritage and not be a racist

[The Grand Nudger]

No, but in the example of the SAE farternity, that whole chapter was shut down for doing what they thought was the right thing to do appearently. Again right and wrong being subjective and based on their cultural norms.

Oh, is that why they were shut down...for doing what they thought was right? Here I was thinking that they got shut down for creating a PR debacle for a borrowed national brand........

Look, if those guys want an all white club house then why not let them have it?

I guess they just don't get to do it with someone else's brand and resources, huh? In any case, you answered this question posts ago..I don't see why you keep asking. I'm the man, I say they can't do it, and neither you nor I see any reason that they, as a group (or any particular group) should have any say in the matter.

I certainly don't want someone in my club house who thinks I should not be a member, so why not let those people all assemble under one roof and just keep tabs on them?

-as long as I get to surround it with barbed wire..I'm in.

Me I like vanallia that way i can sprinkle on different things when I want.. But again I understand not everyone wants that. some people only want choclate with Nuts. so why not let them be choclate with nuts?
They just got to understand the same thing. They can force me to have choclate with nuts if I dont want it, so the need to keep choclate with nuts contained in the choclate with nuts community.

It's almost as though the subject makes you so uncomfortable the only way you can answer is with scrubbed ice-cream metaphors.

My wife is of the blonde hair and blue eye variety, and she reminds me that after i start the revolution she will have to do her part and sell me out to the new gestapo.

Try Stasi, it's the thinking mans gestapo and will get you major kudos.

I tell her like I'm telling you. I not looking for one race to dominate all others. I'm looking for a TRULY FREE soceity. One where volintary segergation is allowed if and when a given community wants it..

No one is stopping anyone from self segregating. Them boys can go make their own Frat, with their own name. For the time being, let's call it Kappa Kappa Kappa?

Well me my cousins my sisters and Keanu Reeves

I;'m even more comfortable excluding you now, knowing that you are somehow associated with Keeanu Reeves. That's one step away from the camps, and closer to the ovens...in fact.

Indeed. Sometimes it takes an outside perspective to point out the obvious.

Pretty sure that the C. Florida chapter of "The Man" doesn't need any help pointing out their obvious bigotry.

Again, maybe you don't quite grasp the idea that one race is to dominate another. Again what I'm looking to establish is a truly free soceity where if one want to not intermingle with those of other races they should not have to.

Nobody forced you to stick your dick where you stuck it, or prevented you from the same, eh?

Obviously there are those of both the white and black communities that do not want anything to do with one another. so why force them to comingle?

I wouldn't know, you'd have to ask the parties involved. If, for example, people want to drink from -my- water fountain...they'll just have to come to terms with the fact that some crackers lips have probably touched the spigot. You probably won't catch how completely this obviates what lies behind the smoke screen you've projected for your bigoted appraisal of this particular area of social interaction....so we could, on a case by case basis, go through and explain why groups like SAE, for example, reserve the right to deny service, expel members, or revoke affiliations.

I suppose one google trip to their ad copy (SAE) might have solved all of this for you...and prevented the unfortunate manner in which this thread has developed? That's why my Stasi and I (and by I, I mean "the man") do so well...we're thorough and don't mind expending a little effort to further our goals. Brings me right around to a great answer for the OP question:

Yes. However you, personally, just aren't doing a very good job of it.

Satisfactory?

[abaris]

I find this question about cultural heritage incredibly narrow minded.

So let's see, what is my cultural heritage? The one that I know of anyway. Only the last four generations. There would be some Hungarian, some Czech, some German, some Romanian and let's not forget some jewish. In my family people actually did marry between religions or - if you so wish - races. If I was religious, there's also a lot to choose from. Roman Catholic, Protestant, jewish and a bit of Greek Orthodox.

But that's not the end of the rainbow. We all come from somewhere, in Europe as well as America. The Americans should know that everyone's family has been an immigrant family. And where did they come from? If we take the last few centuries, from somewhere in Europe with different cultural heritages. So what Drich is actually arguing for is to put an adopted heritage above all else.

[Drich]

A perfect example of the assimilation of white America on a race or a culture of people is playing on HBO right now. It's called burry my heart at wounded knee. It is about the subjugation and assimilation of the 'Sue' Indians into white American culture. What I am saying here is this very thing is still going on when we demand that people live in such a way that is 'tolerant' of all cultures.

[TubbyTubby]

Sioux Indians.

[rexbeccarox]

"Sue" Indians, Drich? Really? You couldn't do a two-second google search to make sure you were spelling that correctly?

[Thumpalumpacus]

A perfect example of the assimilation of white America on a race or a culture of people is playing on HBO right now. It's called burry my heart at wounded knee. It is about the subjugation and assimilation of the 'Sue' Indians into white American culture. What I am saying here is this very thing is still going on when we demand that people live in such a way that is 'tolerant' of all cultures.

You clearly don't understand that that "assimilation" consisted of genocide. Comparing modern cultural tolerance with genocide is yet more evidence that you're dumber than a pile of fucking bricks.

Also, it's spelt "Sioux" and "bury". Your ignorance is stunning.

[Brian37]

I find this question about cultural heritage incredibly narrow minded.

So let's see, what is my cultural heritage? The one that I know of anyway. Only the last four generations. There would be some Hungarian, some Czech, some German, some Romanian and let's not forget some jewish. In my family people actually did marry between religions or - if you so wish - races. If I was religious, there's also a lot to choose from. Roman Catholic, Protestant, jewish and a bit of Greek Orthodox.

But that's not the end of the rainbow. We all come from somewhere, in Europe as well as America. The Americans should know that everyone's family has been an immigrant family. And where did they come from? If we take the last few centuries, from somewhere in Europe with different cultural heritages. So what Drich is actually arguing for is to put an adopted heritage above all else.

My biological family outside of health issues really hasn't gone into any detail as to or genes or migration. I grew up in America so my "culture" which I hate that term actually, was a pimple faced dork who didn't have their first real friend until highschool.

I really hate humans attitudes that their labels make them special, they may be, but that is local and era based, and since time changes as well, neither culture, or religion or political party or even genes stay the same long term. We have always migrated and mixed.

[Brian37]

I hate the idea that the past is worth clinging to. It is worth remembering as a history lesson, but it is not worth clinging to it if it props up bigotry, sexism and xenophobia. Words like "cultural" and "tradition" and "religion" are not looking forward, those are all excuses to cling to the past. What should be important to humanity is fostering civility, not protecting an ego.

Not sure what's the problem with culture and tradition, it's something that serves as a uniting factor for people - Race is different because no one chooses race. I despise culture and tradition if it's harmful, but if it's benignant I don't see the problem.



I'm actually curious why America calls some people Hispanic/Latino - Is it because they speak Spanish? From what I've seen in movies it's usually brown skinned people who come from south america and mexico

Yes it is a unifying factor, that does not mean you are required to cling to it. Humans certainly treat it like loyalty oath, but that does not mean that grouping is a benefit to anyone but the group an individual might belong to. That is why I do not like anything being blindly worshiped.

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A perfect example of the assimilation of white America on a race or a culture of people is playing on HBO right now. It's called burry my heart at wounded knee. It is about the subjugation and assimilation of the 'Sue' Indians into white American culture. What I am saying here is this very thing is still going on when we demand that people live in such a way that is 'tolerant' of all cultures.

No it wasn't just white culture, it was religion. The same book that gave Europeans the sense of entitlement to own blacks, is the same sense of entitlement to move across America. Race did not cause the divisions between Natives and Europeans, religion did that.

It is the same sense of entitlement by both Jews and Muslims that pit each other against each other. Race is the excuse religion uses to avoid the fact religion is the cause.

I see this progression from all sides. You tell them it is religion, they say it is a race issue, when you call them on that it becomes an ethnic issue. When you call them on that it becomes a cultural issue.

[Ravenshire]

"Sue" Indians, Drich? Really? You couldn't do a two-second google search to make sure you were spelling that correctly?

You clearly don't understand that that "assimilation" consisted of genocide. Comparing modern cultural tolerance with genocide is yet more evidence that you're dumber than a pile of fucking bricks.

Also, it's spelt "Sioux" and "bury". Your ignorance is stunning.

Either Drippy speaks English as a second language, or the American school system is even more fucked than I thought.

[Anomalocaris]

Either Drippy speaks English as a second language, or the American school system is even more fucked than I thought.

drich clearly can not assimilated by literacy.