Should the Palestinians have an independent state?

[CristW]

The recent elections in Israel has created a dilemma for all those involved. It seems there are three possible scenarios but at least one is highly improbable to occur.

It seems to me that the ones that could really change outcomes is the state of Israel who possess nuclear weapons.

I will post the options and you decide.

Netanyahu opens up the possibility of a Palestinian state after election promise.

[vorlon13]

If one were established, there would be an immediate civil war.

So what's the point ?

A fair election in Jordan with everyone living in Jordan allowed to vote would be a better plan.

[Minimalist]

I wouldn't believe that jew prick if he said the sky was blue.

[CristW]

If one were established, there would be an immediate civil war.

So what's the point ?

A fair election in Jordan with everyone living in Jordan allowed to vote would be a better plan.

Well, actually the PA has been in a "civil war" and no actual state has been declared (Hamas vs. PA.) and sometimes...it's Islamic Jihad vs. Hamas vs. PA.

Yes, Jordan has most of the "Palestinian" population but this only creates political factions within Jordan. Original Jordan population vs. Palestinians.

You know the best thing to do is for Israel make these Palestinians... Israeli citizens. Import the Lebanese setup of government or some hybrid.

Example:
Prime Minister - Jewish
President - Palestinian

Therefore, everybody could share the land together. The whole point is to make HAMAS disappear with other Islamic groups and the Jewish extremist groups could be diminished as well. At the same time, destroying the impetus for recruits for the Islamic state.

Oh yes, the whole reason for the Americans concern is to diminish any involvement in the future to support another war in the Middle East.

[Thumpalumpacus]

If they want their own state, let 'em have it.

More importantly to me as an American, we need to stop funding the Israeli military with $3 billion in weapons credits. It buys us no leverage ... only enemies.

[Dystopia]

Yes, independence for both Palestine and Israel. Requirements of international Law for independence are all met. But not invasions please

[Brakeman]

Some atheists you guys are...
Israel is a founded theocracy, it hides it's religious control but nothing can be done that crosses the religious Zionistic theme. Fuck them. Treat all people equally, compensate those that were displaced and give the property back to the original owners. Give everyone a vote and the majority arabs will get rid of all remnants of the the stupid zionistic state.

[Dystopia]

Some atheists you guys are...
Israel is a founded theocracy, it hides it's religious control but nothing can be done that crosses the religious Zionistic theme. Fuck them. Treat all people equally, compensate those that were displaced and give the property back to the original owners. Give everyone a vote and the majority arabs will get rid of all remnants of the the stupid zionistic state.

Hm and Palestine isn't?

I don't see the relevance on intervening in foreign affairs, Israel is entitled to live as Jewish state if they want. The question isn't if they are secular or not but if they deserve independence from the rest of the middle east

[professor]

The Palestinians already have a state, the same people have the country of Jordan.
But then, the Islamist war makers would have to fold up their tent and go home.
So the charade continues.
The Muslims do not want a state beside the Jewish one.
They were given Gaza and destroyed anything productive there, and use it to build bombs and launch missiles.
How many times do they need to tell you, they want one INSTEAD of the Jewish one.
Hell will freeze over first.

[FatAndFaithless]

*Blinks*
Was professor's account hacked by Netanyahu? Oh, no that's actually just professor.