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Was it necessary to create anything?
#71
RE: Was it necessary to create anything?
(April 4, 2015 at 5:13 am)robvalue Wrote: Yep, it makes no sense. An omnipotent God couldn't reasonably be the slightest bit impressed or interested in something as simple as us. It would be like us getting excited about ants moving towards us.

The whole thing is utterly ridiculous. If he wants to feel loved and praised through free will of others, he could just simulate that feeling in himself whenever he wants, to whatever intensity he wants. He has no need to actually go through the motions of anything.

Of course, if you turn it around and say God is created by us in our image, it all makes perfect sense.

I am far from omnipotent, and I am not very impressed with people.  There is a great deal of imbecility and cruelty in the world.  If people are the creation of an omnipotent being, it must be either stupid or evil or both.


As for wanting to be praised, that neediness isn't compatible with a perfect being.  Only a being that lacks something creates something.  If it were perfect, it would be complete in itself, and have no need of anything at all.  Consequently, the world as we know it is incompatible with the existence of a perfect being.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#72
RE: Was it necessary to create anything?
(April 6, 2015 at 12:06 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: As for wanting to be praised, that neediness isn't compatible with a perfect being.  Only a being that lacks something creates something.  If it were perfect, it would be complete in itself, and have no need of anything at all.  Consequently, the world as we know it is incompatible with the existence of a perfect being.
Grace requires an object, but I don't think of graciousness as an imperfection.
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RE: Was it necessary to create anything?
(April 6, 2015 at 12:30 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(April 6, 2015 at 12:06 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: As for wanting to be praised, that neediness isn't compatible with a perfect being.  Only a being that lacks something creates something.  If it were perfect, it would be complete in itself, and have no need of anything at all.  Consequently, the world as we know it is incompatible with the existence of a perfect being.
Grace requires an object, but I don't think of graciousness as an imperfection.

god, grace, faith, etc is imperfect. 
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